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Francine cried them to a conference all by themselves. ******* Crying Coaches. Hope that ***** is back on the schedule next year.Did Syracuse get kicked out of the ACC?
Francine cried them to a conference all by themselves. ******* Crying Coaches. Hope that ***** is back on the schedule next year.Did Syracuse get kicked out of the ACC?
We can do that! Perform at a top 25 level but let our eyeballs tell us we are a bottom 25 performance and then complain about the obvious bottom 25 performance.We put up those 24 points in 8 drives.
Our ninth drive was 8 play 3:40 and left them no time on the clock.
3 points per drive is currently top 25. If you want to count the final drive that 2.67 which isn’t terrible
It is in our DNA, you don't design and build buildings, bridges, and air planes without a huge safety factor to guarantee success. In the case of football, the "safety factor" for our victories is winning every statistic and every game by a wide margin. Then we can all be happy and sleep well.We can do that! Perform at a top 25 level but let our eyeballs tell us we are a bottom 25 performance and then complain about the obvious bottom 25 performance.
Aside from UNC and Hampton, Duke hasn't exactly been tested by high flying offenses. MTSU and Northwestern are 112 and 123 in total offense, respectively. And UConn's stats are bloated by having faced Merrimack, Buffalo and FAU.Our “ok” offense scored the most points and gained the most yards against the 5th-ranked defense (ranked after their loss to us) in the ACC. And except for UNC, no other team Duke played came close to the yards we put up. Our special teams shoulder a good portion of the blame for our scoring not keeping pace with our yardage. I think an offense that is statistically in the upper quartile of most objective measurements should be considered “good”.
Now, if you are talking about the team as a whole, I completely agree with you. We are a key play/penalty or 2 from being either 6-0 or 2-4.
True, but I think FEI ratings/rankings are opponent-adjusted. @slugboy can correct me if I'm mistaken about this.Aside from UNC and Hampton, Duke hasn't exactly been tested by high flying offenses. MTSU and Northwestern are 112 and 123 in total offense, respectively. And UConn's stats are bloated by having faced Merrimack, Buffalo and FAU.
I thought they looked solid. They tackled wellAside from UNC and Hampton, Duke hasn't exactly been tested by high flying offenses. MTSU and Northwestern are 112 and 123 in total offense, respectively. And UConn's stats are bloated by having faced Merrimack, Buffalo and FAU.
They are opponent adjustedTrue, but I think FEI ratings/rankings are opponent-adjusted. @slugboy can correct me if I'm mistaken about this.
Also, I would add that Duke was tested by a high-flying offense last Saturday.
Not saying they're not properly coached. But they really hadn't faced a potent offense yet, either, with the exception of Carolina. You could play Iowa (from 2023) every week and have a top 10 defense but are you really any good? You really don't know until you play a good offense.I thought they looked solid. They tackled well
They are opponent adjusted
I think the story of those games will be about those defenses against Duke's weak offense. After a while, their defense will fail because their offense gets shut out.Not saying they're not properly coached. But they really hadn't faced a potent offense yet, either, with the exception of Carolina. You could play Iowa (from 2023) every week and have a top 10 defense but are you really any good? You really don't know until you play a good offense.
We won't find out much about Duke's defense in two weeks, either (FSU). But the two weeks after that, SMU and Miami, OK, let's see how good they are then.
I’m unsure how to interpret your post. You seem to be saying Duke hasn’t played a good offense yet, thus we can’t tell if they are a good defense or not. That’s actually what advanced stats like FEI and EPA/play can tell you, since they factor in strength of opponents, and by mid-season tend to have enough data to converge on a realistic view of a team’s strengths and weaknesses.Not saying they're not properly coached. But they really hadn't faced a potent offense yet, either, with the exception of Carolina. You could play Iowa (from 2023) every week and have a top 10 defense but are you really any good? You really don't know until you play a good offense.
We won't find out much about Duke's defense in two weeks, either (FSU). But the two weeks after that, SMU and Miami, OK, let's see how good they are then.
Agree that opponent-adjusted stats are likely not that accurate in some extreme cases. And Duke has played a relatively weak schedule. But as of today they have played three P4 opponents and only one scored more than 21 points. And that's with a weak offense that tends to keep their defense on the field.I’m skeptical of the accuracy of adjusting for opponent across “classes” per-se. Can shutting down a bunch of bottom-half offenses tell you THAT much about how you’d do against a top-decile offense? Or are there more step-function-like levels where two defenses could do similarly against a meh offense but one actually is much better at tackling, or faster, or whatever, in a way that’s revealed only when they play top teams?
I think generally opponent-adjustments are pretty good by mid season but in the case of Duke when they hadn’t really played ANYONE I think it’s a specific situation where the verdict is still out.
As of today Duke's played at least one team with a pretty good offense, compared to before last Saturday.Agree that opponent-adjusted stats are likely not that accurate in some extreme cases. And Duke has played a relatively weak schedule. But as of today they have played three P4 opponents and only one scored more than 21 points. And that's with a weak offense that tends to keep their defense on the field.
I gagged a little bit when I realized I was defending Duke's team, sorry.
True, but I think FEI ratings/rankings are opponent-adjusted. @slugboy can correct me if I'm mistaken about this.
Also, I would add that Duke was tested by a high-flying offense last Saturday.
Anyone have the PFF grades for our OL vs. Duke?
60.0 is considered average, so all but one were average or above. That’s an improvement against a pretty good D. I am happy with that.PFF Grades For Every Offensive Player On Georgia Tech In Their Win vs Duke
It was not pretty, but Georgia Tech found a way to end Duke's unbeaten season and get a win to move themselves to 4-2. The running game and, especially the defewww.si.com
LT Corey Robinson- 73.5 (83)
LG Joe Fusile- 70.4 (83)
RG Keylan Rutledge- 69.5 (83)
RT Jordan Williams- 69.4 (83)
C Weston Franklin- 69.0 (83)
TE Jackson Hawes- 60.0 (2)
TE Ryalnd Goede- 59.9 (75)
TE Avery Boyd- 55.0 (9)
LG Harrison Moore- 51.7 (13)
Also, notice that a certain LT who scored in the 20's against Louisville did not play.60.0 is considered average, so all but one were average or above. That’s an improvement against a pretty good D. I am happy with that.
For what it's worth, 65 is average. PFF scales their grades to a 100 point scales, with 65 as the average. As a range, you might see 60-70 as an "average" block, 50-60 as below average, below 50 as poor, 70-80 as above average, and above 80 as exceptional.60.0 is considered average, so all but one were average or above. That’s an improvement against a pretty good D. I am happy with that.