Analytics post mortem

[leatherneckjacket]

Not sure if this got posted elsewhere, but even if it did it’s sure as hell worth posting again.

Just think how much higher it would have been if Singleton does not drop the pass in the end zone that was intercepted. Or the other dropped passes. Great game by Philo.

 

[apatriot1776]

Just think how much higher it would have been if Singleton does not drop the pass in the end zone that was intercepted. Or the other dropped passes. Great game by Philo.

I think it should be the same whether it’s dropped or not. The play would be graded as a positive play for Philo and a negative play for Singleton. The PFF grade gives a clearer picture of how each individual player played, independent of the players around them.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

I think it should be the same whether it’s dropped or not. The play would be graded as a positive play for Philo and a negative play for Singleton. The PFF grade gives a clearer picture of how each individual player played, independent of the players around them.

I hear what you are saying and while theoretically it may be true, I wonder if in actuality he did get dinged for any those dropped passes.

 

[bobongo]

I think it should be the same whether it’s dropped or not. The play would be graded as a positive play for Philo and a negative play for Singleton. The PFF grade gives a clearer picture of how each individual player played, independent of the players around them.

What about passes that are imprecisely thrown but caught? I would imagine a receiver would get extra credit and somewhat count against the QB. Is that right?

 

[apatriot1776]

What about passes that are imprecisely thrown but caught? I would imagine a receiver would get extra credit and somewhat count against the QB. Is that right?

In theory yes

 

[slugboy]

I hear what you are saying and while theoretically it may be true, I wonder if in actuality he did get dinged for any those dropped passes.

In PFF he shouldn’t be dinged (they’re supposed to give the QB credit for hitting the receiver in the hands, and dinged for a terrible pass that gets caught anyway)

QBR doesn’t care though-ints are ints

 

[bobongo]

In PFF he shouldn’t be dinged (they’re supposed to give the QB credit for hitting the receiver in the hands, and dinged for a terrible pass that gets caught anyway)

QBR doesn’t care though-ints are ints

So just to note, PFF, which is a subjective analysis of direct observation, seems a far more accurate gauge of a performance than stats, which are purely objective.