2024 non-GT games thread

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Sorry but the “G” conferences don’t all get automatic bids in any sensible playoff.
The “G” conferences only exist the way they do because they’ve been neutered by decades of realignment caused by a total lack of representation at the championship level. The Big East was a legitimate power conference as late as 2001, and now doesn’t even exist. Hell, the PAC 10/12 was a legitimate power conference until this year until it got absolutely annihilated by realignment.

When you take all of the best teams in a conference and put them in a new one, of course the conference will suffer. If those teams/conferences had legitimate paths to a championship we wouldn’t be in this mess we’re in now. Money and attention was way more diversified before the era of super conferences. Since the introduction of the BCS there’s never been less parity at the top levels of the sport, even more so since the CFP. Imagine any real professional sport not allowing division/conference winners to compete in their playoff system because they “aren’t good enough.” They won their conference. If they aren’t good enough to even have a chance to play for the championship why is that conference even in the league. One of the primary arguments for going to a playoff in the first place is so smaller programs or teams in non-power conferences could play their way in. But all that’s happened is the big schools and power conferences (read SEC/B1G) have continued to stack the odds and politic to have more spots and more power.

Here’s the breakdown on conferences in the final AP poll from 1998
5 from the Big 10
5 from the Big 12
3 from the SEC
3 from the ACC
3 from the Big East
2 from the PAC 10
1 each from the WAC, CUSA, and independent
You’re telling me a playoff featuring every conference champion and maybe a couple of at-large bids of this era wouldn’t have been wildly entertaining and drive parity. There’s 8 conferences and 1 independent ranked, also no conference had more than 2 teams in the top 10. But sure, let’s just put 7 SEC and 5 B1G teams in the playoff every year.
 

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The ACC losses likely hurt the conference for the future. Not good and disappointed in particularly at SMU for their horrible performance. Clemson's defense was horrible. What is frustrating is I really think Tech could play with these home teams. Maybe not!!!
 

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The ACC losses likely hurt the conference for the future. Not good and disappointed in particularly at SMU for their horrible performance. Clemson's defense was horrible. What is frustrating is I really think Tech could play with these home teams. Maybe not!!!
Not. We lost 5 games this year. On our best day and their worst day we could.
 

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If we have a healthy QB the whole year, we win 10+ games. That's my opinion based on what I saw on the field when our QB was healthy. We had holes, but so did everyone else. There were no complete teams this year.
What games do you believe King was either healthy for or unhealthy for?

We won 4 of our 7 wins in the last minute of the game. We didn’t lose any games in the last quarter less Georgia.

King appeared healthy in losses to Syracuse and Louisville.

VT is clearly the game a healthy King would have made a big difference.
 

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What games do you believe King was either healthy for or unhealthy for?

We won 4 of our 7 wins in the last minute of the game. We didn’t lose any games in the last quarter less Georgia.

King appeared healthy in losses to Syracuse and Louisville.

VT is clearly the game a healthy King would have made a big difference.
King didn't appear healthy in either Syracuse or Louisville. He was having shoulder/hand issues in both games. Definitely an issue in the Louisville game, for sure. I think if he were fully healthy in both of those games, the outcome could have been different. I think we beat VT without a question and have a fighting chance against ND. We did beat uga. I'm not saying we would have been undefeated, but uga and VT makes us 9-3 and I think we win 1 of the other 3, maybe 2 of them. It's purely speculation, so it doesn't really matter. These are my opinions.
 

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King didn't appear healthy in either Syracuse or Louisville. He was having shoulder/hand issues in both games. Definitely an issue in the Louisville game, for sure. I think if he were fully healthy in both of those games, the outcome could have been different. I think we beat VT without a question and have a fighting chance against ND. We did beat uga. I'm not saying we would have been undefeated, but uga and VT makes us 9-3 and I think we win 1 of the other 3, maybe 2 of them. It's purely speculation, so it doesn't really matter. These are my opinions.
He played really well in both of those games both throwing and running for a guy who was hurt.

Vs Cuse 29-39 for 266 and a TD. 6 rushes for 66 yards and 2 TDs.

Vs Louisville: 21-32 for 312 yards. 14 rushes for 56 yards and a TD.

Statistically they were by far his best two games.

But whatever your eyes tell you is fine.
 

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The ACC losses likely hurt the conference for the future. Not good and disappointed in particularly at SMU for their horrible performance. Clemson's defense was horrible. What is frustrating is I really think Tech could play with these home teams. Maybe not!!!
To me the way we played against uga was a helluva lot better than what either clemson or Smu showed against lesser teams than uga
 

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He played really well in both of those games both throwing and running for a guy who was hurt.

Vs Cuse 29-39 for 266 and a TD. 6 rushes for 66 yards and 2 TDs.

Vs Louisville: 21-32 for 312 yards. 14 rushes for 56 yards and a TD.

Statistically they were by far his best two games.

But whatever your eyes tell you is fine.
He was missing everything deep in the Cuse game and sailing passes in the Louisville game. Yeah, I think he was hurt in both those games. Louisville game we also had ST issues, but it doesn't change what I said. With a healthy QB all season, I think we win 10+ games. I'm not looking for your approval of my opinion.
 

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He was missing everything deep in the Cuse game and sailing passes in the Louisville game. Yeah, I think he was hurt in both those games. Louisville game we also had ST issues, but it doesn't change what I said. With a healthy QB all season, I think we win 10+ games. I'm not looking for your approval of my opinion.
Ok, I 100% disagree as no team is ever fully healthy. King looked fine in those games to me. He might have gotten dinged up late in the Louisville game. He was sharp against Syracuse.

I will agree on VT so 8-4 is ok by me. We could not stop Syracuse at all. Louisville game was winnable but the UNC, NCST, FSU, and Miami were all very close to losses. Would a healthy King have helped, of course. On the other hand the way he plays the likelihood of him being healthy for a full season is very low. In his career he has had one healthy season in 5 season. That is a trend.
 

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Ok, I 100% disagree as no team is ever fully healthy. King looked fine in those games to me. He might have gotten dinged up late in the Louisville game. He was sharp against Syracuse.

I will agree on VT so 8-4 is ok by me. We could not stop Syracuse at all. Louisville game was winnable but the UNC, NCST, FSU, and Miami were all very close to losses. Would a healthy King have helped, of course. On the other hand the way he plays the likelihood of him being healthy for a full season is very low. In his career he has had one healthy season in 5 season. That is a trend.
I don't have a problem with your opinion and agree that every team gets dinged up. We can disagree about Cuse and Louisville, no problem. But my tenet was that "if we had a healthy QB all season," which negates your comment about getting dinged up because we also agree that he did get injured. You're at 8 and at 10+...which I'm fine with. I'm not asking you to agree with me and I'm not trying to convince you I'm right. I'm offering my opinion and my bases; it's okay with me for you to disagree.
 
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