2020 Atlanta Braves News

Buzzbomb · Jan 30, 2020

Wonderful post, Fred!
I suspected you would pull for us, if the roles were reversed.
My dilemma is I like you guys, right after Atlanta. Thought about Dusty managing you guys, as he got the Houston job last night. Really enjoyed the WS in 2019!!

When the Braves first moved here in 1966, I was still in Miami for the next few years. We got 20 Atlanta games down there. No other team present. The President cut in for a speech and we got preempted for that game. I was so mad. Would listen to the West Coast games with a radio under my pillow(Mom was the devil incarnate, Ha!Ha!). Still not sure why Atlanta was in the Western Division for decades?
I started going to AtlFulCo in 1969, and those late ‘70’s games had 60,000 fans disguised as empty seats. We probably crossed paths in the mid to late 80’s, Fred?
How could we not? True baseball fans. We witnessed some good ball from the road teams.

Last year was wonderful for a couple of reasons. Relevant baseball for both of our teams, & secondary club.

YellowJacketFan2018 · Jan 30, 2020

Buzzbomb said:
Wonderful post, Fred!
I suspected you would pull for us, if the roles were reversed.
My dilemma is I like you guys, right after Atlanta. Thought about Dusty managing you guys, as he got the Houston job last night. Really enjoyed the WS in 2019!!

When the Braves first moved here in 1966, I was still in Miami for the next few years. We got 20 Atlanta games down there. No other team present. The President cut in for a speech and we got preempted for that game. I was so mad. Would listen to the West Coast games with a radio under my pillow(Mom was the devil incarnate, Ha!Ha!). Still not sure why Atlanta was in the Western Division for decades?
I started going to AtlFulCo in 1969, and those late ‘70’s games had 60,000 fans disguised as empty seats. We probably crossed paths in the mid to late 80’s, Fred?
How could we not? True baseball fans. We witnessed some good ball from the road teams.

Last year was wonderful for a couple of reasons. Relevant baseball for both of our teams, & secondary club.

I miss the Braves being in the NL West but i always was sort of a contrarian

Was Miami a pretty good Minor League Baseball town?

Buzzbomb · Jan 30, 2020

YellowJacketFan2018 said:
I miss the Braves being in the NL West but i always was sort of a contrarian Was Miami a pretty good Minor League Baseball town?

We had the Miami Marlins, 3A for Baltimore. Not great crowds unless a promotion, much like minor league baseball in Gwinnett County. Spring Training did better, especially when the Yankees were in Ft. Lauderdale back then. Miami and the area, don’t really support MLB with the Fish. Soccer and Football do well, because of the huge Cuban & Spanish population.

MWBATL · Jan 30, 2020

Buzzbomb said:
Soccer and Football do well, because of the huge Cuban & Spanish population.

Aren't those the same???

Buzzbomb · Jan 30, 2020

MWBATL said:
Aren't those the same???

T.I.C.? Yes.

American Pro football is big down in Miami. They have supported the Dolphins well, and many Super Bowls. Before the Pro Bowl featured individual players, they played a two-team event before the Super Bowl. I went back down there with my Grandfather in 1969 for three games; Kansas/Penn. St. in Orange & Minn./Dallas in Pro Bowl & Jets/Colts in Super Bowl.

Not sure what this has to do with baseball, sorry for getting off base. I won’t address Havana Soccer play. Lol!

Buzzbomb · Jan 30, 2020

Buzzbomb · Jan 31, 2020

SD, LA D., are the reported favorites to land Mookie Betts from Boston. Should the Braves get involved for 27 m., in his last year before free agency? How steep is the package of prospects required? He’d push Ozuna down to fifth, and the crowded OF would be over the fill line on the tank. Here are some stats.:

AL MVP
4X All-Star
4X Gold Glove winner
3x Silver Slugger
2018 batting title winner
2x Wilson Defensive Player of the Year
10.9 WAR in 2018
42 career WAR thus far

kg01 · Jan 31, 2020

Buzzbomb said:
SD, LA D., are the reported favorites to land Mookie Betts from Boston. Should the Braves get involved for 27 m., in his last year before free agency? How steep is the package of prospects required? He’d push Ozuna down to fifth, and the crowded OF would be over the fill line on the tank. Here are some stats.:

AL MVP

4X All-Star

4X Gold Glove winner

3x Silver Slugger

2018 batting title winner

2x Wilson Defensive Player of the Year

10.9 WAR in 2018

42 career WAR thus far

We have the prospects to get in the conversation. Why not?

YellowJacketFan2018 · Jan 31, 2020

kg01 said:
We have the prospects to get in the conversation. Why not?

I'd rather not have to gut the Braves minor league system

slugboy · Jan 31, 2020

YellowJacketFan2018 said:
Everyone even remotely involved should have been suspended for a year

If you’re a player, I hear that the union worked out immunity if you give honest statements to MLB. So, it’s only coaches and management who are going to get penalized.

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YellowJacketFan2018 · Jan 31, 2020

slugboy said:
If you’re a player, I hear that the union worked out immunity if you give honest statements to MLB. So, it’s only coaches and management who are going to get penalized.

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It's too bad that the power of the MLB Players Union can't be seriously reduced

Silk3 · Jan 31, 2020

kg01 said:
We have the prospects to get in the conversation. Why not?

Bc he only has 1 year left. If we could do it w/out giving up Pache or Waters I may be interested

kg01 · Jan 31, 2020

Silk3 said:
Bc he only has 1 year left. If we could do it w/out giving up Pache or Waters I may be interested

I hear you. It's a gamble on top of a gamble in the middle of a gamble. But, as I always say (which was totally stolen from some other dude

), prospects are nice but rangs (no, not "rings") are nicer.

Another saying that's applicable to prospects? "There's always more where that came from."

There's not always MVP-caliber guys available.

YellowJacketFan2018 · Jan 31, 2020

kg01 said:
I hear you. It's a gamble on top of a gamble in the middle of a gamble. But, as I always say (which was totally stolen from some other dude ), prospects are nice but rangs (no, not "rings") are nicer.

Another saying that's applicable to prospects? "There's always more where that came from."

There's not always MVP-caliber guys available.

It's very difficult to rebuild a minor league system if you gut it by trades. That's been a problem for the Yankees and Phillies for a while.

kg01 · Jan 31, 2020

YellowJacketFan2018 said:
It's very difficult to rebuild a minor league system if you gut it by trades. That's been a problem for the Yankees and Phillies for a while.

First, I don't think it'd decimate their farm to aqcuire Betts though it would certainly be costly.

Second, I'd say it's easier to rebuild the farm than it is to acquire an mvp-level player in his prime.

Last, I remember the Texiera trade so I know the risk. I just think we're close enough that the risk would be worth it.

FredJacket · Jan 31, 2020

kg01 said:
First, I don't think it'd decimate their farm to aqcuire Betts though it would certainly be costly.

Second, I'd say it's easier to rebuild the farm than it is to acquire an mvp-level player in his prime.

Last, I remember the Texiera trade so I know the risk. I just think we're close enough that the risk would be worth it.

Just a curious question for you. What is your threshold for "worth it"?
1) Making playoffs with 90ish wins
2) Winning NL East & losing NLDS
3) Winning NL East & losing NLCS
4) Losing WS
5) Winning WS

NOT picking on you... I like to play this what if game when fans talk about risk/reward. Obviously... there is another option specific to Betts where he balls out & Braves for other reasons come up short.

GTJake · Jan 31, 2020

FredJacket said:
Just a curious question for you. What is your threshold for "worth it"?
1) Making playoffs with 90ish wins
2) Winning NL East & losing NLDS
3) Winning NL East & losing NLCS
4) Losing WS
5) Winning WS

NOT picking on you... I like to play this what if game when fans talk about risk/reward. Obviously... there is another option specific to Betts where he balls out & Braves for other reasons come up short.

Fred my threshold has two parts;
#1) Win a World Series Title
#2) Manage the Franchise to win multiple World Series Title's
So, I would say if it's costly, but not crippling = go get him !!

Buzzbomb · Jan 31, 2020

Silk3 said:
Bc he only has 1 year left. If we could do it w/out giving up Pache or Waters I may be interested

He lost the grievance. Bryant has to wait 2 years for free agency.

FredJacket · Jan 31, 2020

Buzzbomb said:
He lost the grievance. Bryant has to wait 2 years for free agency.

Pretty sure @Silk3 is referring to Betts... not Bryant.

Buzzbomb · Jan 31, 2020

If memory serves, it worked for us acquiring McGriff(although we acquired him in 1993, wouldn’t have won the 1995 WS in the 144 games without him and his 27-93), if the Big Prize is the goal. It backfired getting Barker, Drew, Teixeira. Lost large MLB players & future talent.

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