2018 captains

iceeater1969

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FWIW, I recall Ivenmeyer getting significant playing time, and they wouldn't have burned Hansons RS if the need wasn't there.

That being said, I also agree with your point that the OL play was underwhelming at points as well. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and IMO, the injuries merely exacerbated already troublesome OL performance.
Thanks.
What continues to concer n me is the inability to build depth by rotating players on o line. In 17 pelton finalky did rotate his guys and they all improved.

Just think back to 16. Day one we started 3 true freshman ( lee, braun, cooper) and sophomore bryan who had to play in 15.
Was the transition from klock + easom handled well- they both left with eligibility left. Not a smooth transition that lead to brady and will being back ups to starter. 17 was painfull and lets hope thast lee returns to form , stick and marshall can play up to his ability AN D WE ROTATE IN SOME UNDER CLASSMEN.

By way i think playing hansen foir a brief period in unc game was not needed.


The defense could let this happen. Get a big lead or be way behind, but go for it!
 

GTFLETCH

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Whose ceiling do you think was higher: Taquon or Tevin Washington?

I say TM by a decent amount. If TM gets his reads and passing to TW levels, our offense will be least of our concerns (per usual). He obviously has work to do there.

If not, LJ or TO will get the chance.

One thing's for sure. Those who are openly rooting for one guy or another to be the starter will never admit to being wrong if it works out the other way.
based on what we saw last year.... TQM lost the Tenn game... where in 2011 TW won against #5 Clemson... TQM 37% passing completion is way worse than TW whose first year was 49%, however unlike TQM he beat #5 Clemson that year... TQM did not beat Tenn, he lost it....TQM is an ABACK, not a QB!!!
 

BootsCostMoney

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Well, I like Johnson too, though he does test my tolerance sometimes, but let's not go overboard with this "brilliance" talk. One on thenational scene is bad enough. But it is hardly "brilliant" to name the captains at the start of the season. Why in the world would you go through six games without captains, despite their mainly symbolic value?

One, don’t tell me what to do. Two, you’re right. It’s not brilliant in the sense that it’s ground breaking in its implementation. It’s something done differently than from what he’s done in the past and applies to the area our team needs the most improvement in, leadership. Tech fans get him to do something different finally and it’s still not enough. LoL. And Three, captains have more than just symbolic value. Maybe not to you, but to those that matter, they do.
 

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based on what we saw last year.... TQM lost the Tenn game... where in 2011 TW won against #5 Clemson... TQM 37% passing completion is way worse than TW whose first year was 49%, however unlike TQM he beat #5 Clemson that year... TQM did not beat Tenn, he lost it....TQM is an ABACK, not a QB!!!

If you're really claiming TM lost the TN game, you're either ignorant or a troll.
 

1BearJACKET

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I don't get all the fear and angst people have about the fairness of the fight for the job.

Refer to the competition in fall camp. CPJ publicly pronounced that the QB job was Jordan's to lose. However, later in the season in an interview he admitted that he had thought since spring practice that he would start Marshall all along. The injury to Jordan's shoulder in fall camp during the "code red" made the point moot. Dirty pool IMO. If Matthew hadn't re-injured his foot during Clemson when he was moving the yard markers, I believe that he may have taken over and if not then CPJ would have platooned the QBs. That is the reason I don't think that the "competition" will be fair.
 

UgaBlows

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Wow, TaQuon has a lot of haters on this board. I’m a big fan, personally. I agree that A-backs need to get in the action more, but I’m sure CPJ and TaQuon himself are well aware of that. Look for him to improve and ball out next season.


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I don’t think any GT fan hates Taquon, thats ridiculous. A lot of us lost a little optimism that he can improve based on his late season performance last season, some of that was maybe OL related, part was that the schedule was backloaded with good opponents. If he’s the starter i’ll be pulling like hell for him.
 

first&ten

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This is sorta true. But …

First, no Marshall. We went into the season with our senior OT off the field.
Second, Stickler and Shamire both played hurt for the last half of the season after missing parts of our games.
Third, Will played out of position for a lot of the year. He did well, but he was out of position.
Four, you're forgetting Ivemeyer. Bailey started two games for us. He did better then most (i.e. me) expected, but nobody thought he would play full games.
Five, missed assignments? Consider 1 - 4 above and you might have an idea why this happened. We never had a full, healthy OL with the same players in the same positions on the field after the UNC game.

In short, given the lack of continuity, I was surprised we did as well as we did.
You're joking right?
 

first&ten

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There are lots of people in this world who underestimate and underappreciate the value of player-led team leadership and its impact on the success/failure of a team. The fact that CPJ has decided to have the team select that leadership now as opposed to mid season is indicative of how much he understands and values it. It’s a brilliant move and shows that regardless of play calling and/or scheme, he’s a man who has the pulse of his team. This is the best move I’ve seen all offseason and now I’m a little more fired up for 2018 than I previously was. Leadership is the “it” factor that can help a team overcome shortcomings in talent a lot of times. It doesn’t matter if it’s the gridiron, the conference room, or the battle field... leadership can either make or break you.

Players play and coaches coach. Lots of times folks tend to overlook the fact that the team has to decide how dedicated to each other they are and how much effort they are going to put forth to get where they want to be. Congratulations to both Taquon and Brant. Johnson is absolutely correct when he says it’s an honor to have your peers elect you to be their leader. They’ve got a big task before them this year, and regardless of whether or not they start this coming season, being a Captain is a full time starting position in its own right.

Give ‘em Hell, boys!
I'm will never ceased to be amazed at how shallow some of our fans can be.
 

GTFLETCH

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If you're really claiming TM lost the TN game, you're either ignorant or a troll.
Who was the QB on the last play when we went for two... Whoever was the QB, if that guys makes the correct read and pitches the ball to Benson it is a walk in 2 pt conversion and we win.... I can Post that play, and we can see who was QB if you need it....

Now if you want to discuss why we were in OT, I agree TQM was not the reason... We can talk about JJ greens fumble and the Defense... But we had a chance to win, and the issue was we had a RB playing out of position at QB all season long. we only won 5 games and got 37% with him at the helm!
 

GTFLETCH

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What metrics, if any, should CPJ use from spring and fall camps to determine the starting QB?
Well Since TQM is a RB, and our new 4-star Athlete is recovering from injuries and will need to redshirt... It seems it would be between LJ and TO... I think these are the traits being looked at besides how Overall Offenses looks with each of them as the QB:

Selflessness. The very nature of the option offense is predicated on the notion that the ball must be distributed as the defense dictates. In an option offense, any pre-snap or predetermined decisions made by the quarterback will hinder the offense’s effectiveness. As with a quarterback who refuses to tuck the ball in and run, a QB who keeps the ball too often ruins a team’s chance of success.

Winning attitude. The confidence that radiates from the quarterback comes from being a leader. It’s the ability to make something out of nothing. It’s the unflappable demeanor during the inevitable hard times. He’s not brash or arrogant but rather possesses a firm confidence that comes across in different ways and during defining moments.

Loyalty. There are a lot of naysayers when it comes to the option. With doubters around every turn, if your quarterback is a player who philosophically hasn’t bought into the offense, he will destroy it. The slightest doubt or hesitation in execution causes an option attack to break down.

Good decision-maker. The defenders’ reactions to the option are the primary keys, but coaches can still tweak the offense with a player who has the other characteristics – such as running more double-option. While some QBs have the ability to come out and read defenses immediately, this aspect of running the option is usually a learned skill. Mistakes inevitably take place during the teaching process. When they do, it’s important for the quarterback to learn from them.

Spatial vision. The ability to see space while focusing on keys is essential to the success of an option QB. He cannot be successful without it. This allows him to handle back-to-back and echo stunts and leverage pitch while creating big plays on the second cut. That is most important because if he can spot potential problems before they occur, he can decrease or prevent fumbles.

A desire to run. More important than pure speed is if the QB is a willing ball-carrier when the defense dictates is. Even if it’s only a 5-yard gain, that’s a successful play. You have no chance, though – even with an athletic quarterback – if your QB doesn’t have a desire to be a real part of the running game.

Intelligence. Quarterbacks need to understand football theory and fully grasp what this offense is trying to accomplish. This doesn’t happen as often as it sounds, though. It is the head coach’s job to help his QB, whether that is through sideline cue cards or offensive lineman making line calls.

Quick feet. In tight corners, quarterbacks have to change direction on a dime. Speed is nice but fast QBs with long, loping strides usually don’t make it out of the backfield. Take foot quickness over speed any day.

Quick hands. Quick hands allow a quarterback to get the ball out of a mess in traffic. They also allow the quarterback to hold the pitch until the right moment and keep the pitch key from being a two-assignment player.

Arm strength. While not as important as the other traits, it’s more important than something like accuracy. The ability to throw the ball over the top keeps the defense honest.
 
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