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Hasn’t Butch Jones been the best UT coach out of he last 4? I mean , he actually took Tennesse to some bowl games didn’t he? That seems like a good accomplishment.

My goodness the only people around the country that don’t think we are in a monumental rebuild are the people in this board. This is the type of thing that is so frustrating. I get criticism of the coach. But not acknowledging the severe lack of talent on this team is simply to be blind. Very...

Unfortunately, right now it’s still time for the poor recruiting angle on Johnson.

Agreed. Transitioning away from the option is a flat bear. Despite the relatively high ceiling GT has compared to a majority of the power 5 in terms of recruiting, I bet walking in to this little talent and training them in a completely different style was something many coaches wanted no part...

Well, that is the metric by which a program gains publicity and that publicity is what ultimately attract recruits which is the life blood of a program. If a program is never ranked then ultimately it’s not respected. If it’s not respected it has a hard time recruiting. This isn’t professional...

Most definitely. Unfortunately I think some let there fandom blind them to the realities of our program under Johnson. Virtually every preseason publication forecasted the debacle that was about to take place. We were all about Johnson and his scheme during his tenure. Remove that and we...

I’m really stunned more people couldn’t see this coming. I didn’t think we would lose to Citadel. But I thought we would be bad. I don’t know how our fans couldn’t recognize the talent level in this team. I watched the last few years just stunned at our lack of athleticism.

If we wanted to win 6 games again we would have brought in an option coach and been locked in there due to the lack of talent that will play for a program that runs that. Very little of what this staff is doing is for the present. It’s all future focused. It’s just rubbing a lot of people the...

Strong opinion there.

Your statement is completely accurate. The transition was obviously easier under Johnson. I see no argument for the contrary.

Completely agree with you that this staff will never be as good at making lemonades out of lemons. That’s not what they were brought in here for.

2016 was not a good year. We weren’t ranked for a single week. If that is your standard for success then I’m afraid we just disagree on what being successful is. In college football it’s all about the rankings.

There will not be another year where w I’ll respond since I’m the type of poster you are referring to. I completely expected us to be terrible this year. I thought the talent the last few years has been really lacking and the only thing that kept us competitive with average teams was CPJ and...

Can you really not see the difference in the transitions between UNC compared to us?

Me and you simply strongly disagree on this point. The Citadel being the exception. Most of the nation understands how difficult a job Collins has. The least forgiving people on him are the people on this board. Food for thought.

Miami might score 3 TD’s on Defense.

Or how limited our ceiling was with this talent. Hopefully an upgrade is coming in that regard.

Hard to see 3 wins. VT is a possibility. Maybe we surprise in another 1.

And I think ND only scored 14 points in offense. UVA could have played that game much closer.

Not at all. Loved those days and Johnson deserves the credit for those achievements. However, he is also responsible for the lack of talent on the 2019 Jackets. Both things can be true.