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It's in the college and pro sports section. And it probably has to do with us since Monken has a decent chance of being the next coach here.

This is certainly not the thread for the coaching debate.

I respect that, my only counter is that would be acceptable to me for years 2 and 3, not year 4. Year 4, you need to deliver some of your promises, not 5 wins, but "hey at least we didn't get blown out".

Ah the dreaded eyeball test. Where looks and opinions rule over quantifiable evidence.

"No regrets no fear" I'm going to remember that. That's great.

8 minimum

But you were posting very negative narratives about the program during the last coaching regime. Don't you think you're being majorly hypocritical with your angry/whinny post here?

Sad to see him go, but I'm happy for him. Good for Collins for giving him a chance at this level.

But according to many guys, such as @forensicbuzz, the COVID year doesn't count towards anything so they are really just freshmen (lol)

Great point

I really have no idea how anyone can see it this way.

I really would love to be wrong as well.

You're confusing TStan with CGC. CGC and Key have both made claims, whether outright (key) or eluding to it (CGC's "elite recruiting").

That's literally what CGC and Brent Key have claimed they would do here

Are the classes better? Yes Are the classes where he and his staff claimed they would be? No even close. Can Collins coach thus group to the wins he's claimed? Not likely.

Do you think he had as much say so this time with the hire?

What happened at Auburn? They pretty much won a NC despite Roof's defense.

Can you blame me? I thought about looking it up and checking on it, but too much work today.

Nix also had better protection. I like Sims, I think he is special and it's unfair how much blame gets put on him. That comes with the position however.

This is just so dang sad.