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First, I’ve never suggested that 7-5 attained via 3 OOC patsies should be a standard. It can, however, be employed as part of a path to rebuilding. Perhaps I misunderstood your earlier post regarding 7-5 as attainable. Or perhaps you’re moving the goalposts. Either way, I agree that getting...

Again, will you be happy with 6-6 and 7-5 seasons, or would you rather us have a better W/L record, even if it is accomplished by replacing a probable loss with a probable win? As you stated, we have Clemson and UGA for star power, and next year we will have 3-4 of those.

The catch is, as we strive to move up to "average", we are playing a schedule significantly tougher than average. And I disagree that we will get credit points for losing to UGA, Clemson, Notre Dame, and an ascendant FSU next year.

A recall King made a nice long completion in the Spring game, on a rollout. But at the time I also thought that he looked awkward doing it, almost like a jump pass. Sounds like Weinke is earning his salary getting King ready.

I’m confused (fairly common these days, unfortunately). You’re saying 7-5 is pretty much our ceiling most years. But you also stated how we should schedule the tough teams, and implied we should aspire to be like Notre Dame (play anyone, anywhere). So are you happy with 6-6 or 7-5, as long as...

At the risk of being repetitive, describing 7-5 as “attainable” (stretch goal) just reinforces my point about avoiding tough scheduling as we rebuild. We’ve fired coaches for going 7-5 routinely.

Again, no argument from me that we have bigger problems to fix than our tough schedule. But I disagree that changing a probable loss to a probable win via scheduling is "tinkering around the edges" when we only play a 12-game regular season and are struggling to win 6 games. That said, my...

It just occurred to me that perhaps Key's naming of the starter now, rather than later, was done in part to allow more time to focus on developing that chemistry with the presumed starting WRs.

Always appreciate the historical data. And I don't disagree with your last point. However, what I and others are suggesting is forward-looking, and CPJ's past team performances aren't relevant to the near-term future of the program. When we have been as bad as we have been over the last few...

I believe @takethepoints' basic premise here, which I agree with in principle if not in specifics, is that we should attempt to control what is controllable about our schedule in terms of selecting opponents during this time frame when we are rebuilding the program. I don't have data, but it...

The SEC overall is good. By most every metric, SEC teams in aggregate are superior to other conferences. They were only marginally better 15-20 years ago, but the gap has increased. What seems core to the disagreement between many posters in this thread is the disparity between the actual...

Is Cabrera the first President we've had (at least in a long time) that is an alum? If so, perhaps there is a correlation.

Mods, can we merge in the depth chart thread comments on the same topic?

I suspect this is the simple and correct answer to my questions. 🙂

I get the feeling that Key and Weinke have told the Zachs exactly what they need to work on to take the starting job.

Here's what's puzzling about the rankings - clearly there is a "last year's record" bias, and yet we finished solidly right in the middle of the pack last year with a 4-4 conference record. I guess the analysts see our opponents as improving, but not us? Or is the same "GT is just not a good...

Remember how CPJ’s teams were often picked to be near the bottom (sometimes last) in the Coastal, only to finish first or second? It’s tempting to say they only look at last year’s record, but I think there is a vague “team reputation” concept bias at work also.

No, history has shown that the SEC narrative doesn't change if the results run counter to it. At best, it will be that the ACC still only has one good team.

And as strange as it seems, had Key managed to roll out a prepared QB and won that game, we would have finished 2nd in the Coastal - not unfamiliar territory for us. A 3-way tie based on W/L records, but we would have had the tiebreaker over Pitt and Duke. Also notable is that we beat teams...

In 2016 we played 3 SEC teams. And beat them all. The ACC had an overall winning record (8-2 if my math is correct) against the SEC that year. Did the narrative change? Nope. That year, Miss St played 3 cupcakes and lost to one (South Alabama) on their way to a 5-7 record after relatively close...