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I would love to see the proof that the BOR actually did that. My own cynical self says that the odds are likely about 4-1 that it was the Hill who said that and not the BOR.

LOL. We played Virginia Tech. Our offense: 273 yards and 10 points scored Their offense: 276 yards and 17 points scored YES. I do believe the statistics show that Virginia Tech has a better offense than ours. Now you can play the "rational discussion" card all you want, but in the most...

I already did answer it. I think their offense was effective this year. They won 8 games and lost 4. That's pretty effective in my opinion. It was MORE effective last year...when they won 11 games.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. My point is simple: I have no idea how long you've been a GT fan. But go back in your mind as far as you can regarding GT games and tell me which year's team had the best offense statistically and which had the best defense statistically. Now, tell me what year...

Well, I tell you what. When we start scoring 100 points a game and losing, I'll jump onto your side of the argument. Until then, when we're losing 50% of the time, I don't care whether the offense, the defense, the special team, or the water boy is responsible.

OK, give em a loss. 19-7 over 2 years is STILL effective.

I agree. But their record is 11-2 and 8-4 over the past 2 years. If you believe, as I do, that they'll pound Duke in the bowl game, they'll be 9-4. So, yeah a record of 20-6 over 2 years is pretty effective. Conversely, since we will have a record of 7-7 and 7-5 currently. If we win, our...

No. If we scored 100 points a game and gave up 101, it would mean our TEAM sucked and that we lost a hell of a lot of games.

No, I disagree. That's not what I said at all. I said the MOST IMPORTANT statistic of an offense is one that is shared with the TEAM. Did they win the game or not? In the end, the only real statistic that endures from season to season...is wins vs losses. So, I said that I was summarily...

Absolutely not. Our defense has been horrendous for the most part the entire time Johnson has been the coach. This year was better than the past but still not earthshattering. But the goal of the offense is to score at least 1 more point than the opposition scores. If your defense holds the...

OK, how about this? In 50% of the games over the past 3 seasons, our offense has failed to score at least 1 more point than our opposition. So while it may be "efficient" by the definition you guys are putting forward, it isn't "effective" enough.

LOL, talk about lack of rationality. One of the kids on that team is committed to play baseball for GT. Three of the kids on the team are GT fans. Five are UGA fans. One is a UCF fan, two are UF, three are FSU, one is LSU, one is committed to play for Vandy, one is hoping to go to UCLA...

What wasn't RATIONAL about my reasons? The head coach is paid to win. Period. No amount of charts or stats will change that. Why do I view the offense to be the problem? Because it's the public perception of the offense that hurts the recruiting. And no matter how good a coach is at...

1. No, I'm not satisified with a top 20 - 25 offense if we're a .500 team. Noone gives a crap when you're making the argument to your friends who are fans of other schools. Them: "We're 9-3 baby". You: "Well, we're a top 25 offense". Sounds kinda lame. 2. I hold the head coach...

Or 0-4?

You DO realize that using the cards actually speeds up the number of plays in the game you can run, right? It takes more time for CPJ to tell the play into the ear of the player...him to run out to the QB...the QB calls the play in the huddle...then we come to the line. And if the call is...

I have often wondered why we don't use a different way of getting the plays in instead of running it out with players. Even people like myself who don't care for CPJ acknowledge that the guy knows his system better than anyone else. Why not do what some of the programs (such as UGA) do and...

AE87, I respect your zeal to prop up your argument with statistics, but isn't reality that the most important stat is Wins & Losses?

My fear is that their two very large defensive tackles will spend a lot of time in our backfield, disrupting the mesh point and we will never adjust to it. Nkemdiche is big, fast, and strong...and by this point has played an entire season of SEC football, so he has some experience now, too. I'd...

Thank you for the great answer & for taking the time to put it together. And for the record, I wasn't saying we have no answer. I do contend though that we have yet to SEE us answer that strategy. VT did it against us this year pretty effectively. Clemson did it at times and Miami and UGA did...