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684, aren't your and MWBATL's posts, very good examples of why we should get the numbers of cases/hospitalizations under better control. They aren't now. What will do so? Look, I think based on following this thread that most of us recognize this as a very complex issue of critical tradeoffs. I...

Key word points...."confirmed". No way we are 35% of the actual world's infections, because that's not how the virus functions.

Yeah, the 5% vs 35% thingy doesn't make sense because it's not how this thing works. A very significant % of the World's population is likely to get infected before a vaccine is available on a large scale, if ever. How large a percentage is a function of: if, when, and effectiveness of said...

Good one, Thanks.

Irony? More like numbers involved at each source to begin with, huh?

Obviously the comment: I know ur just having some fun--went equally over your head. I'd still bet the 10k.

Just when I think we have seen the bottom on here. I know (hope for your sake) that ur just having some fun, but I'd bet $10k right now this minute, that Fauci's IQ is an order of magnitude higher than yours.

Yeah, it's kinda like concluding a 4th and 1 decision in a CFB game during the 1st qtr is a game changer....at the time!

Agree on the cut off issue on the BMI charts, and most doctors I know do too. Sadly though, all it takes is basic observation. A trip to Walmart, any Mall, a cruise ship with predominately Americans, or a football game, is all you have to do. Needing to lose 20 lbs. is one thing, but needing to...

Very likely the post of the thread, at this point. Thanks RX7. Now brace yourself for: Fauci should be jailed etc.

If "obese" is fragile, then 44% may well be a low number.

What is truly obtuse, is not understanding that Fauci and many others like him, that actually know a LOT more than you or I about this, ARE actually suggesting that reopening is possible, but with a speed control. Another sign of obtuseness, is assuming someone is ignoring the harm done to the...

If they have been wrong at times, imagine the likelihood that you are as well---and the shoe would be on the other foot for them at your place of work. Plus, "they" ARE recommending moving forward. I wasn't suggesting by pointing out the many nuances that we "sit still until we've covered every...

Those at risk groups are not just a handful of people. They also depend on the less at risk group for survival while "isolating and staying home as long as they want", meaning they have to be exposed in a number of ways to survive. Why do people so want to make this a zero sum game, while it has...

If the obese people here in the US were to elect to isolate, we would be shutdown for a looong time.

In reference to the very recent Covid related Texas abortion rights case, this is what the Appeals Court Justice said:"Jacobson instructs that all constitutional rights may be reasonably restricted to combat a public health emergency," wrote Judge Stuart Kyle Duncan for the majority.

As for being too early to grade Sweden, it's possible that their last week of April's surge in infections will impact the death count about a week or 2 from now, depending on ages of the newly infected people.

Agree as to lockdowns simply delaying the number of infections, but not so sure about total deaths, unless one disregards the reductions via avoiding the healthcare system not being overrun, plus the buying time concept when it comes to therapeutics.

Interesting, but authored by a semi-conductor executive. I'll take Fauci's view personally. Plus, South Korea says Hi, but in fairness, their reaction was a lot more than a lockdown. The key seems to remain testing, isolation, and tracing. A lockdown would be more akin to Wuhan, albeit a brutal...

The US has a nursing home issue as well, that has contributed a ton to our nos.