JorgeJonas
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There is no such thing as a big four, or whatever number you want. It's the big twelve. Every game matters.Don't forget we get FSU, too. So your "big 5" is really a big 6.
There is no such thing as a big four, or whatever number you want. It's the big twelve. Every game matters.Don't forget we get FSU, too. So your "big 5" is really a big 6.
Agree, but not all 12 were such thorns in our side prior to last season. That's how the label came to be. It also signifies the contests that mean the most to outside observers.There is no such thing as a big four, or whatever number you want. It's the big twelve. Every game matters.
Yeah, I guess the whole thing strikes me as an amorphous standard. I mean, what has Miami really accomplished in the past decade, and why should we measure ourselves against them? VT had a great run (I think seven consecutive ten win seasons) but they've been extremely mediocre for three years now. I guess the point I'm getting at is that those four games have been cherry picked not because they represent anything, but because we've struggled in them, not including Clemson, of course. The idea is flawed because if we start losing consistently to UNC and start beating VT consistently, Carolina will suddenly become more important. And that's insane, because neither of those teams are a rival or at the top of our division. It's really just an extension of the defeatist wing of our fanbase for whom happiness can never be achieved.Agree, but not all 12 were such thorns in our side prior to last season. That's how the label came to be. It also signifies the contests that mean the most to outside observers.
Miami has played in the ACCCG the same number of times as Georgia Southern. Certainly that can't be the reason.The big 4 in my book are called such because they are either our biggest rivals or those games end up meaning the most. For about 8 years the GT, VT, and Miami have been the dominant force in the coastal so those games mean the most.
Don't know if I am nattering or a nabob -- too lazy to look 'em up -- but I do remember the political disposition of Agnew, and the speechwriter who coined that phrase, one he came to regret in the abject humiliation of his hasty departure. To the point: contrary as it may seem, we got those records over those years the hard way; we earned them. One can argue the records could have been better, and another can argue just as persuasively that they could have been worse, but we know what they were. Johnson might say they was what they was. Or something. If pointing out the records is negative, it is because the records were, well, negative. Johnson might also say that we had our chances, and must take ownership. I am more concerned with 2015, starting with Alcorn State.I think VP S T Agnew best described that lot as "The nattering nabobs of negativity".
Miami has played in the ACCCG the same number of times as Georgia Southern. Certainly that can't be the reason.
fify.Yea Miami hasn't played in the ACCCG but their games usually throw a wrench in other schools. Like us and VT. Also they could've played in 2012 over us but excused themselves because they cheated in recruiting like crazy.
I was at this years Miami white-out. A great win for us, but the first after five straight defeats. I agree, Miami hasn't been dominant at all in recent years. But they beat us five straight. Hopefully we are starting our own streak against Miami, as well as the others in the big four.Yea Miami hasn't played in the ACCCG but their games usually throw a wrench in other schools. Like us and VT. Also they could've played in 2012 over us but excused themselves.
Whew! I'm glad Notre Dame and FSU aren't important games. I was a little concerned about them.I was at this years Miami white-out. A great win for us, but the first after five straight defeats. I agree, Miami hasn't been dominant at all in recent years. But they beat us five straight. Hopefully we are starting our own streak against Miami, as well as the others in the big four.
Point taken, but we play certain teams every year, and others we play sporadically. I'm a little concerned about Pittsburgh, Duke, and UVA, too. Been a Tech fan for many years. There are no givens, believe me.Whew! I'm glad Notre Dame and FSU aren't important games. I was a little concerned about them.
Miami has played in the ACCCG the same number of times as Georgia Southern. Certainly that can't be the reason.
Concerned or interested?Don't know if I am nattering or a nabob -- too lazy to look 'em up -- but I do remember the political disposition of Agnew, and the speechwriter who coined that phrase, one he came to regret in the abject humiliation of his hasty departure. To the point: contrary as it may seem, we got those records over those years the hard way; we earned them. One can argue the records could have been better, and another can argue just as persuasively that they could have been worse, but we know what they were. Johnson might say they was what they was. Or something. If pointing out the records is negative, it is because the records were, well, negative. Johnson might also say that we had our chances, and must take ownership. I am more concerned with 2015, starting with Alcorn State.
I am one of those guys who convinces himself the game will be lost right up to the closing bell, that some team will pull an MSU Hail Mary -- great play had we done it but it really hurt when they did it -- or get a really dreadful call as with Georgia on that bogus 95-yard "fumble" return, and steal the thing. (Truth is even watching that replay I am worried we will lose anyway. Go figure.) So I guess the answer is both. Interested to see what Johnson and staff will do with this team, more on defense than offense, really, and concerned that events will conspire to beat us anyway. But if you pin me down to this usage, "interested" should be the word.Concerned or interested?
Yep, forgot about the ever talented Criminoles. Little wonder, that someone rated our schedule 14th most difficult in the country. No matter, stay focused on the prize gentlemen.Don't forget we get FSU, too. So your "big 5" is really a big 6.
True dat! People underestimate North Carolina. That team ALWAYS has talent. Generally underachieves too but that is a subject for another time.There is no such thing as a big four, or whatever number you want. It's the big twelve. Every game matters.