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THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Lagrangejacket said:
That's not my call, that's the AD's. That said, GT should be an attractive job for reasons I touched on earlier. Jack Leggett had 1300+ wins, and I think his replacement worked out fine.

It hasn't worked out for Texas.

Supersizethatorder-mutt · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
Futility? We have only missed the postseason twice (about to be 3 times) in his 23 years. I know that we have had some quick exits, but anything can happen in postseason baseball. Any program in the country would kill to have that kind of track record.

SMDH

Supersizethatorder-mutt · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
Let's take another look at that. UF, Vandy, and UF were national seeds. The UW score was 4-2 which is pretty competitive and UVA was a crappy game ( I concede that one).

We used to be national seeds. When was the last time a Danny Hall team could claim that distinction?

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Supersizethatorder-mutt said:
SMDH

I'm not even going to respond to that. I've said how I feel about this above and if you don't agree then fantastic.

Supersizethatorder-mutt · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
Alright, you know everything, so who would you hire to follow a hall of fame coach that is one of only a handful of active coaches to have over a 1,000 wins?

Clemson did pretty well getting rid of a HOF coach

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Supersizethatorder-mutt said:
We used to be national seeds. When was the last time a Danny Hall team could claim that distinction?

2009 I think. It's an unrealistic expectation to be a national seed every year. We were spoiled in the early 2000s.

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Supersizethatorder-mutt said:
Clemson did pretty well getting rid of a HOF coach

Again, Texas has not. Clemson is just one example of the good.

Supersizethatorder-mutt · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
2009 I think. It's an unrealistic expectation to be a national seed every year. We were spoiled in the early 2000s.

Maybe we WERE spoiled, but the fact is we haven't even come close since them. If we could do it then, why can't we do it now?

Lagrangejacket · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
Again, Texas has not. Clemson is just one example of the good.

Okay, so say we replace Hall with a bad coach. What happens then? Do we end up 13th in the ACC with a team that can't hit, field, or (especially) pitch?

Supersizethatorder-mutt · Apr 11, 2017

THWG said:
Again, Texas has not. Clemson is just one example of the good.

Since we don't play Texas, unless we make it to the playoffs, which we won't AGAIN, I don't care much what happened there. We DO play Clemson, and they didn't skip a beat by getting rid of him.

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Supersizethatorder-mutt said:
Maybe we WERE spoiled, but the fact is we haven't even come close since them. If we could do it then, why can't we do it now?

New bats were the main reason to be quite honest. They just completely took away how Hall likes to build teams and then Hall evolved too late. He has to evolve again with the new balls.

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Lagrangejacket said:
Okay, so say we replace Hall with a bad coach. What happens then? Do we end up 13th in the ACC with a team that can't hit, field, or (especially) pitch?

Maybe or it may be worse. It may be better too, but in my experience, replacing a good coach because he wins, but doesn't win enough typically doesn't turn out good.

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

Supersizethatorder-mutt said:
Since we don't play Texas, unless we make it to the playoffs, which we won't AGAIN, I don't care much what happened there. We DO play Clemson, and they didn't skip a beat by getting rid of him.

This doesn't make sense. You should care about what happened at Texas because what happened there almost mirrors what y'all want to happen here.

THWG · Apr 11, 2017

@Lagrangejacket and @Supersizethatorder-mutt
This is my last post of the night. I understand why y'all want him gone, I just wish that y'all would understand why I want Hall to stay. In the end, it doesn't matter what we say because Stansbury will make the decision at the end of the day and we'll just have to wait and see what happens this summer.

AE 87 · Apr 12, 2017

THWG said:
New bats were the main reason to be quite honest. They just completely took away how Hall likes to build teams and then Hall evolved too late. He has to evolve again with the new balls.

I wonder, fwiw, whether APR also affected our recruiting.

Deleted member 2897 · Apr 12, 2017

Lagrangejacket said:
Okay, so say we replace Hall with a bad coach. What happens then? Do we end up 13th in the ACC with a team that can't hit, field, or (especially) pitch?

This made me sad, pointing out that 13th place would actually be an improvement over where we are right now.

GTNavyNuke · Apr 12, 2017

THWG said:
Hughes deserved better tonight. Two dropped foul tips for strikeouts by Bart, a dropped foul ball by Murray (on a tough play, but should of had it), and a dropped ball by Bart on the play at the plate because he didn't put two hands on the ball. This is really tough to watch.

I spent the part of the game doing Contract Compliance Representations and Certifications. More enjoyable that what you described; at least it keeps getting me paid which is enjoyable.

THWG said:
@Lagrangejacket and @Supersizethatorder-mutt
......... In the end, it doesn't matter what we say because Stansbury will make the decision at the end of the day and we'll just have to wait and see what happens this summer.

I think Stansbury will probably take a lot of input from Mark Teixeira. Baseball is not a money sport and maybe 2% of the alumni care about it. Mark was involved in the hiring of Stansbury. And has contributed a lot of money. I have to trust him to be somewhat impartial even though he played for Danny Hall. http://www.news.gatech.edu/2016/08/11/director-athletics-search-committee-established

Hall has done a lot for GT baseball. As much as any coach including Heisman and Morris. His first 18 years had a winning record in the ACC every year. His last 6 (including this one) have not had any winning records (2013 was 15-15). I think that is a statistically relevant trend and why I threw in the towel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Hall_(baseball)

My hope is that Teixeira works with Hall on righting the ship and if necessary helps find his replacement.

RoosterJacket · Apr 12, 2017

Focusing back on last night's game for just one post---let's take a look at the positives......
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Gibson did pretty well
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anything else?

THWG · Apr 12, 2017

RoosterJacket said:
Focusing back on last night's game for just one post---let's take a look at the positives......
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Gibson did pretty well
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anything else?

Honestly, the bullpen was great last night, but everything else was crap.

RoosterJacket · Apr 12, 2017

THWG said:
Honestly, the bullpen was great last night, but everything else was crap.

True. The two pitchers I've not understood why we've seen more of recently are Schneiderjans and Gibson. I completely understand Schneiderjans struggled mightily vs Clemson, but he had done very well previous to that. I'm pretty sure we haven't seen him since. With Gibson, the coaches obviously felt at the beginning of the season he was one of the top pitchers--he had two bad starts and then had been relegated to only pitching in blowouts.

Handling of pitchers is a very delicate thing and I really do get confused by what CDH and Howell do with our staff.

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