Stansbury and Collins Dismissed

[gte447f]

Anyone know anything else about what happened? SOP or concerned about issues? Assume there may be more let go as well in the near future?

Georgia Tech's Geoff Collins, Todd Stansbury escorted to their cars after firings


https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-...ars-after-firings/JYPRR6TMIFCWPEFHQRYMSQ7MII/

(Via AJC News)

I can’t believe this is still being talked about (and beat to death by one particular poster on this message board… not talking about you Zo). This is not a news worthy story. “How it was handled” is a complete nothing burger. Anyone who can’t grasp that needs to grow a pair and move on down the the road.

 

[bennyjacket]

I dont see the issue we paid him $11 million and we had to escort him to his car so no one robs him. They do this as a courtesy in vegas when you win alot of money without doing much.

 

[JacketFan137]

I dont see the issue we paid him $11 million and we had to escort him to his car so no one robs him. They do this as a courtesy in vegas when you win alot of money without doing much.

this is making me picture them laying out a brief case and telling him to take it

 

[cthenrys]

I once made the mistake of allowing a fired individual say goodbye to his section. He put out rat poison and frankly it was my fault.

Same. Had it blow up on me once and I said never again

 

[iceeater1969]

My first experience w the firing of a long time employee at giant oil company was shocker. Incompetent fellow who often worked outside office had a serios drinking problem. Would not come to office. The main vp told my boss to go to his house a fure him. He went. Had to force way past wife to find him drunk. Fired him and left. The fried guy shot himself. $$$$$$$.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

My first experience w the firing of a long time employee at giant oil company was shocker. Incompetent fellow who often worked outside office had a serios drinking problem. Would not come to office. The main vp told my boss to go to his house a fure him. He went. Had to force way past wife to find him drunk. Fired him and left. The fried guy shot himself. $$$$$$$.

Tragic story.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

One of my brothers is a surgeon. One of the rare but dark ironies of his job was that there was one speech he could never make to the anxious family in the waiting room. At least not in this form or even effectively.

“The surgery was successful but the patient died.”

That can be a completely true statement even though it is one you can’t say effectively to a grieving family.

Sometimes a patient dies for reasons unrelated to the surgery. Perhaps they were too far gone and were going to die regardless. But the surgery was necessary if they were going to have any chance at all at survival. And the surgery was not what killed them.

We have performed successful surgery but the patient has been very sick for a long time and getting sicker. If they die it will not be the surgery that killed them. It will mean the cancer was too far progressed in this case.

But I truly believe the patient has a chance to live now.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

I hope such reports are untrue or at most exaggerations. Stuff such as that usually is. That being said, if crockery is to be broken, do it now, figure out your new scholarship availability and go hunting. I mean, how much worse could it be? Lose all remaining? Done and done.

As per addressing the team: this is the same guy who spent parts of two years blaming Paul Johnson for everything from fumbles to eclipses and cracked sidewalks, who once claimed to face the biggest rebuilding job in the history of college football. Standing him in front of 85-100 players is asking for a whimper and whine show. But think about it… h-ow many of us get $11.5 million to go away, and then get an escort?

This fraud, by definition, did more damage to Georgia Tech football and the institution's reputation that is going to be very hard to scrub away. If players love him so much they are allowed off campus, so have at it, but the institute has to mover forward now. This minute. As for both hires, Mark Twain covered it: put all your eggs in one basket ... and watch that basket.

I actually have hope for the first time in almost four years.

100% this.

 

[RonJohn]

But think about it… h-ow many of us get $11.5 million to go away, and then get an escort?

 

[Oakland]

As of Monday, every player on this roster has a 30 day window for a free transfer without having to sit a year because the HC was fired. Key and staff are working hard to keep some big names on the team right now.

I guess the term big names means starters. We'll lose some players to the portal. That is normal during a coaching change. What I worry about is boosters from other schools recruiting guys like McCollum, Marshall, Watson, and Pyron. Those are not big name guys, but they are our future.

 

[bke1984]

Nm

I guess the term big names means starters. We'll lose some players to the portal. That is normal during a coaching change. What I worry about is boosters from other schools recruiting guys like McCollum, Marshall, Watson, and Pyron. Those are not big name guys, but they are our future.

I doubt any player would transfer before knowing who the next coach is. At that point, yeah it’s likely that some will bail. But at the end of the day we want players who buy what the coach is selling and we want to keep players from transferring if the new staff feels like they can help us be successful. If one or both of those isn’t the case then I wouldn’t get too much heartburn out of a player transferring, and it’s probably better for both parties if they do.

 

[RonJohn]

Nm

I doubt any player would transfer before knowing who the next coach is. At that point, yeah it’s likely that some will bail. But at the end of the day we want players who buy what the coach is selling and we want to keep players from transferring if the new staff feels like they can help us be successful. If one or both of those isn’t the case then I wouldn’t get too much heartburn out of a player transferring, and it’s probably better for both parties if they do.

The NCAA set up window periods for athletes to put their name into the transfer portal. Football players have 45 days after the CFP selections are made, and a 15 day window in May. Outside of that, players cannot enter the portal and cannot discuss transfers with other schools. There is an exception for when a head coach is fired. GT players are currently in a 30 day window during which they can put their names in the portal and start discussing transfers with other schools. I don't know what the academic calendar is, but I guess it is possible that a student could still withdraw at this point. However, it is too late in the academic year to transfer to another school I would think.

So, players can't change teams at this point and start playing next Saturday for another team, but they can enter the transfer portal and start talking to other schools until October 26th. If they don't enter the portal by then, they would have to wait until after the CFP selections have taken place in December.

 

[yeti92]

I guess the term big names means starters. We'll lose some players to the portal. That is normal during a coaching change. What I worry about is boosters from other schools recruiting guys like McCollum, Marshall, Watson, and Pyron. Those are not big name guys, but they are our future.

There is no one I can see on our roster named Watson, so I think we can let him go if he wants

 

[A Love Supreme]

I'm glad GT did the right thing by firing Collins now. He was the worst head coach in the history of the program. He wasn't a great coach at Temple. Hopefully we can recover but this next coaching hire is critical. We can't afford another clown show.

 

[GTLorenzo]

I would be happy to obvious improvement this week, limited penalties, desire to get to the first down marker, not blowing time outs for stupid stuff, good punt protection, etc. If we see that, I could see 3 or 4 wins out there starting next week with Duke. That would be a huge lift to the team, the program and the fans. Really want to see some fire and some heart. If what is being said about practices is true, they are more like a Saban or O'Leary practice, that would be good. We have talent. Not sure we have had the desire recently, whether due to a lackadaisical attitude or no pressure from above to get it done. Hope the team and Key show something big this week.

 

[bobongo]

The NCAA set up window periods for athletes to put their name into the transfer portal. Football players have 45 days after the CFP selections are made, and a 15 day window in May. Outside of that, players cannot enter the portal and cannot discuss transfers with other schools. There is an exception for when a head coach is fired. GT players are currently in a 30 day window during which they can put their names in the portal and start discussing transfers with other schools. I don't know what the academic calendar is, but I guess it is possible that a student could still withdraw at this point. However, it is too late in the academic year to transfer to another school I would think.

So, players can't change teams at this point and start playing next Saturday for another team, but they can enter the transfer portal and start talking to other schools until October 26th. If they don't enter the portal by then, they would have to wait until after the CFP selections have taken place in December.

So, as I understand it, a player could transfer but the transfer wouldn't take place until the end of the season.
He could remain on his team as a sort of lame duck, and even may play against the team he'll be transferring to. Is that right?

 

[LongforDodd]

Nm

I doubt any player would transfer before knowing who the next coach is. At that point, yeah it’s likely that some will bail. But at the end of the day we want players who buy what the coach is selling and we want to keep players from transferring if the new staff feels like they can help us be successful. If one or both of those isn’t the case then I wouldn’t get too much heartburn out of a player transferring, and it’s probably better for both parties if they do.

Yes...the next coach might improve their lot and their general future overall instead of transferring to another school and leaving their GT degree behind.

 

[yeti92]

I'm glad GT did the right thing by firing Collins now. He was the worst head coach in the history of the program. He wasn't a great coach at Temple. Hopefully we can recover but this next coaching hire is critical. We can't afford another clown show.

I never understood why so many posters were convinced we would ride Collins out the whole season to save a few million bucks no matter what, when he had publicly embarrassed GT over and over.

 

[GTLorenzo]

I never understood why so many posters were convinced we would ride Collins out the whole season to save a few million bucks no matter what, when he had publicly embarrassed GT over and over.

Because we've always been in a financial pinch. It looks like the Hill/Cabrera (both hopefully?) are now willing to make a financial commitment to the athletic program. That would be huge. Just got this in an email from Cabrera.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Because we've always been in a financial pinch. It looks like the Hill/Cabrera (both hopefully?) are now willing to make a financial commitment to the athletic program. That would be huge. Just got this in an email from Cabrera.

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This. History has shown that when GT has the choice to either make a bold move or save some money, they generally choose frugality.