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A lot goes into a program. Recruiting, coaching, player development, organization, fundamentals, game preparation, discipline, etc. It takes the entire package.
Agreed.A lot goes into a program. Recruiting, coaching, player development, organization, fundamentals, game preparation, discipline, etc. It takes the entire package.
If I see this right, the Get-Bak! Coach is saying the HC is back on the sidelines? Where's my irony font??May as well give the fire-CGC stuff a rest. It's apparently not happenin'.
Either that or spend more time cuttin' checks to GT.
Just give it a rest. Saying Collins has nothing to do with immediate impact in recruiting results is just ignoring the facts.I don't see it. At all. Odds are it had nothing to do with him. We've always had good recruits from time to time.
And as I said before, what good are his "recruiting skills" if he has no clue how to use them?
All the "recruiting skills" in the world has not helped him reach a .500 lifetime coaching record. (ergo his recruiting skills are in fact worthless)
Saying that Collins' recruiting skills are worth something is sort of like saying you hire a mechanic to build an engine that has great driving skills but has no idea how to change the oil, let alone build the engine.
It's nothing like that at all. If Collins can market, recruit and make GT visible in Atlanta and the State of Georgia, then that's great! Let him bring in the talent and make Tech competitive on the recruiting trail while the coordinators make Tech competitive on the field. Seriously, he's competing with Georgia in-state, Clemson to the north, Bama to the west and too many programs to name to the south. If Collins can steal a few four-stars from those programs, he's done well. Now, let's get some coordinators who know x's & o's to coach 'em up!Agreed.
But to keep a lifetime losing coach as your head coach because he has "recruiting skills" is sort of like hiring the same captain to captain the Titanic on it's voyage of doom over and over again because he has great people skills.
As fans at this particular moment, we need to decide to get behind CGC for one more year. It may be his last year, it may not. His team may show substantial improvement next year, it may not. But one thing for sure, it is( or soon will be ) his "do over" team. I am going to try to remove the negative impressions I have formed over the last 3 years, and be 100% supportive. Will that be easy ? Heck no ! But our players, both current and recruits/transfers, deserve that.Guys, give the Collins negativity a rest. None of the mods wants to lock threads, but at some point this has to end.
As fans at this particular moment, we need to decide to get behind CGC for one more year. It may be his last year, it may not. His team may show substantial improvement next year, it may not. But one thing for sure, it is( or soon will be ) his "do over" team. I am going to try to remove the negative impressions I have formed over the last 3 years, and be 100% supportive. Will that be easy ? Heck no ! But our players, both current and recruits/transfers, deserve that.
We will see where it goes from here, but from now let's move FORWARD !!
Lack of fans in the seats might cost us another player or two. The players have noticed that we aren't showing up and it's starting to get to them.
My source for this is the father of a player who graduated three years ago and remains close with several members currently on the team. I went to HS with the father. The former players words were, to paraphrase, 'the uga game opened the eyes to a lot of our student athletes about how little the fans actually care about them.' You heard similar, but in a much less accusatory tone, from the post game presser from Tre Swilling.
If this was in regards to my post, I get it. I may not be the better man, I will try to be either. I am not a spring chicken, and sometimes I think I may not be around long enough to see the school I love be successful in football again. But also at my age, I seem better able to decide where and how I want to let things upset me. We will see how it goes, but I'm gonna' give it a shot.Better man than me....
That's not uncommon. In fact, a whole management philosophy is built around the CEO/COO (visionary/integrator) relationship. Walt Disney couldn’t have done it without his brother Roy. Henry Ford wouldn’t have built an empire without his Integrator, James Couzens. And, Ray Kroc wouldn’t have created the largest restaurant chain in the world without Fred Turner. These companies were all small once. Collins is clearly a visionary. He needs a solid integrator to make the trains run on time.My view of CGC'c method is that he doesn't like the job of digging in the weeds of tiny details. He thinks his staff should do that job, but his lack of understanding of how those tiny details matter gives him a false sense of what is important. He is enjoys the PR and HR jobs, but struggles with COO role because he doesn't know how to turn his ideas into action.
And then do what with them?It's nothing like that at all. If Collins can market, recruit and make GT visible in Atlanta and the State of Georgia, then that's great! Let him bring in the talent and make Tech competitive on the recruiting trail while the coordinators make Tech competitive on the field. Seriously, he's competing with Georgia in-state, Clemson to the north, Bama to the west and too many programs to name to the south. If Collins can steal a few four-stars from those programs, he's done well. Now, let's get some coordinators who know x's & o's to coach 'em up!
It was embarrassing…Our secondary was clueless this year more so than any other I’ve ever seen.
Great post and I agree! He is here at least one more year and if he can get good coordinators and let them do their job we really could be on to something.If this was in regards to my post, I get it. I may not be the better man, I will try to be either. I am not a spring chicken, and sometimes I think I may not be around long enough to see the school I love be successful in football again. But also at my age, I seem better able to decide where and how I want to let things upset me. We will see how it goes, but I'm gonna' give it a shot.
For all those who like me stopped getting season tickets maybe we could all give it one more go and all sit in the same section. (Lower West?) We could be the "No Money Down" section
I am and I would buy 2-4. make a pact that unused tickets always go to other tech fans or just eat them. Dont want fans of the opposite teams in a season ticket block.Honestly I could really get behind this idea. I haven't had season tickets fro many, many years due to relocation but if there was a core group that would get a block of seats together I would do that. May only make it to one or two games but the idea of going and sitting with people I "know" would be intriguing. All of my GT buddies are scattered and too invested in other things to even consider this so I, for one, am willing to entertain further discussion if in fact you are serious.