Regional Projections

Techcaster572

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This is a great example of how you can skew a couple data points to justify anything

Reality is our metrics (RPI and ELO) put us into a beauty contest and a couple warts cost us. It’s not some grand conspiracy if you look at it objectively nor does it matter. We can easily win a regional and then we’re one series from Omaha same as we would’ve been before
If this was a one off situation, I might lean towards your thinking; however, this happens often.

Usually in favor of one particular conference.

What is the definition of one that believes in a conspiracy theory. It's the desire of said person to question the narrative put out usually by people that don't want that narrative to be questioned.

Asking "why" is a key component of critical thinking. I've found those that label others as conspiracy theorists usually want to shut down the narrative. Whatever narrative that may be.
 

jackets1234

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The second sentence is the problem. There's no way that should have been the case using their own criteria - Q1 wins, how you do in your own conference, and injuries considered. RPI is only one of the criteria.

Regarding the first sentence, if you want to dial into every starting pitcher you face, midweeks would be looked at a lot differently and it would nearly nullify those three close SEC losses.
I agree and they often do throw out midweek results because they are so situational. Midweeks and conference tournaments only matter when you are splitting hairs between teams which is where we ended up unfortunately. Personally I think we drew the short straw because of location (auburn, Clemson, Athens nearby vs getting more west coast representation with UCLA) and also southern miss AD being on the selection committee. Feel like those factors outweighed any true metrics for these last couple spots
 

jackets1234

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If this was a one off situation, I might lean towards your thinking; however, this happens often.

Usually in favor of one particular conference.

What is the definition of one that believes in a conspiracy theory. It's the desire of said person to question the narrative put out usually by people that don't want that narrative to be questioned.

Asking "why" is a key component of critical thinking. I've found those that label others as conspiracy theorists usually want to shut down the narrative. Whatever narrative that may be.
There’s definitely something to it. In this instance I feel like we got screwed by a B1G school and sun belt but the SEC gets special treatment. Some of it is earned and some of it is money
 

Techcaster572

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Here's some real talk.

Another reason why we didn't get a host site.

Attendance and support has been pathetic over the years. I've had season tickets for over a decade now and I can count how many times I've attended a sellout on two hands, maybe one.

I get it for people out of town; however, it is absolutely the best value in all of sports considering your ability to see future mlb players with the level of recruiting that has taken place over the years.
 
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GTJon

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If you watch the D1 nerd cast from last night, they give a lot of information about how the regionals are divided. After watching, I think it’s clear we won’t go to Coastal or UCLA because they are over 400 miles away. They said we wouldn’t go to Athens because they won’t do a place in consecutive years. Auburn wasn’t really mentioned as an option because we are a high 2 seed and they are a higher 1 seed. That basically leaves Knoxville or Hattiesburg as our only options.

If it is USM, they agree Miss St would be the 3 and then they said at the end, that would be the toughest regional. The only other option for 2 at USM is probably Alabama because they can basically only go there or Clemson. I’ll still hold out hope for Auburn, but it seems less likely than the other 2.
 

Techcaster572

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If you watch the D1 nerd cast from last night, they give a lot of information about how the regionals are divided. After watching, I think it’s clear we won’t go to Coastal or UCLA because they are over 400 miles away. They said we wouldn’t go to Athens because they won’t do a place in consecutive years. Auburn wasn’t really mentioned as an option because we are a high 2 seed and they are a higher 1 seed. That basically leaves Knoxville or Hattiesburg as our only options.

If it is USM, they agree Miss St would be the 3 and then they said at the end, that would be the toughest regional. The only other option for 2 at USM is probably Alabama because they can basically only go there or Clemson. I’ll still hold out hope for Auburn, but it seems less likely than the other 2.
Then why send an Acc and a Sec out west over the past few years.

In the ncaa basketball tournament, a 2 seed is truly a 2 seed and gets the advantages earned through the year for being a 2 seed.
If the committee were to place tech anywhere other than the national 15 or 16 seeded regional, you know it is just more proof that it's the SEC invitational. Who cares about proximity and matchups that make the most of money but let's be honest.

That's what they want.
Sec stadiums with an Acc v Sec matchup.

Two best conferences with the advantage given to the sec.

Wait and see which sec team the committee places in the likely top 4 national seeded Unc in Chapel Hill.
 

GTJon

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Then why send an Acc and a Sec out west over the past few years.

In the ncaa basketball tournament, a 2 seed is truly a 2 seed and gets the advantages earned through the year for being a 2 seed.
If the committee were to place tech anywhere other than the national 15 or 16 seed is just more proof that it's the SEC invitational
Sometimes they have to because they can’t avoid all travel. But they had the head of the selection committee on a couple of weeks ago, taking about the computer algorithm that spits out where teams can go within 400 miles. They make it clear it’s not like basketball where it is truly a reverse snake order to 68, just avoiding conference rematches early.

In their mind, they’re doing us a favor by sending us to a close region against a lower national seed, even if it doesn’t feel like that.
 

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The problem we face is most of the SEC fans are complete idiots. It plays into their SEC, SEC, SEC at all costs. They will completely ignore facts or arguments and just scream SEC regardless of any situation. We are not only fighting the incompetence of our own commissioner we are fighting hundreds of thousands inbreds to change a narrative. Its quite the uphill battle.
 

GTJon

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Again personally, I hope it’s Auburn but it seems most likely they wouldn’t punish the 6 or 7 national seed with a team that could’ve been hosting as well.
 

Techcaster572

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Sometimes they have to because they can’t avoid all travel. But they had the head of the selection committee on a couple of weeks ago, taking about the computer algorithm that spits out where teams can go within 400 miles. They make it clear it’s not like basketball where it is truly a reverse snake order to 68, just avoiding conference rematches early.

In their mind, they’re doing us a favor by sending us to a close region against a lower national seed, even if it doesn’t feel like that.
At this point, It's just time to knock the snot out of any secheat school
 

Techcaster572

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Again personally, I hope it’s Auburn but it seems most likely they wouldn’t punish the 6 or 7 national seed with a team that could’ve been hosting as well.
I want the Barn.
We owe those clowns and to do it in their stadium would be poetic!
 

Techcaster572

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The problem we face is most of the SEC fans are complete idiots. It plays into their SEC, SEC, SEC at all costs. They will completely ignore facts or arguments and just scream SEC regardless of any situation. We are not only fighting the incompetence of our own commissioner we are fighting hundreds of thousands inbreds to change a narrative. Its quite the uphill battle.
True and very well said

Problem is those sec chanting homer fans go to games and subscribe to services that put out rankings and preseason polls. Money runs it all.

That's why you see the rankings littered with sec teams whether earned or not
 

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What are you talking about? Do you think GT is going to get left out of the tourney?

FSU was undefeated and won a conference title in a championship game, GT lost all 3 games against the SEC (neither of which made it to the SEC Champ game) and then yesterday with everyone watching we played pretty darn bad. I don’t know the last time I’ve even seen a high school player run past his teammate for an auto out.

Whether we play in Atlanta or not we have shown we can hit 7 bombs and we can meltdown. FSU would have loved to have the chance GT is going to get today.
Yup… that’s obviously my concern. :rolleyes:

I’m just trying to figure out why a snub to conf champ FSU is a call to arms for you… A brutal illustration to all of us blind lemmings that the system is and always has been corrupt. But a snub to conf champ GT is A-OK. I thought this is what you want us all to see… it’s a rigged game and every ACC snub weakens us even more as a conference right?

Obviously we have to get over it and move on. Winning games fixes the snub, for sure. But where is your defense of the good guys? I’m trying hard to learn but I’m struggling with some mixed messaging here. ;)
 

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I will always be a GT fan since we have high academic standards. Overall the colleges in ACC schools have more academic standards that the different colleges in the SEC schools IMHO.

But the SEC is really the Sports Education Conference where aspiring athletes largely go to have a more lucrative path to the professional leagues. It's what they invest in and what promote. I don't like it, but IIWII.

We just need to win the next game (I'm simple).

I don't buy the "We'll show them they were wrong" mantra. If I did, I'd have to think we lost the tough games like the one against Clempy since we didn't care. I don't believe that at all. It's baseball and hopefully our time will come. (In poker I'd say that after negative variance you are "due" for some positive variance. But don't fool yourself when statistically significant results show you aren't there yet and it's not just variance.)
 

Techcaster572

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Personally, I think this sets up better for Tech.

Better on the road and now have a much-needed chip of disrespect on their shoulder.

The Duke and Va Tech series wins on the road along with the sweeps of Stanford and ND on the road is where we played our best baseball.

It does need to be pointed out how biased the committee is and always will be.

Over the years, the one concern I've had is the mindset in tournament ball. Very reminiscent of Bobby Cox and the braves of the 90's. Very business like. I want to see an attitude for tournament ball.
When the outfielder for Tn flipped the bird at Colin Hall coming in to 2b, the team did absolutely nothing in 21.

Look at Mercer over the weekend against Samford. The clown from Samford blasts a 2 run hr and taunts Mercer around the base paths towards home. Mercer walks off the field in protest.

Only one way to deal with a bully
 
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I can somewhat understand why the committee. Is giving us a #2 seed looking strictly at their criteria and our performance against Clemson in the ACC tournament. But their bias really shows when they overlook our regular season championship in the retirement year of a legendary coach. These considerations would not have been ignored if it was an $EC team that was on the fence of a host position I am sure.
 

Techcaster572

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I can somewhat understand why the committee. Is giving us a #2 seed looking strictly at their criteria and our performance against Clemson in the ACC tournament. But their bias really shows when they overlook our regular season championship in the retirement year of a legendary coach. These considerations would not have been ignored if it was an $EC team that was on the fence of a host position I am sure.
Exactly

Every team has flaws including Tech but to punish us for our flaws but mostly ignore the flaws of Ut, Ucla, S. Miss, and others just further exposes their biases. In looking at objectively, Tcu and Tech got screwed the most regarding the host site. Tcu and Tech had the better resumes imo than the others listed above.

I still believe Tcu has the best case to be ticked off but because they sit in big 12 and not the mighty sec, they get screwed over as well.

In the end, it doesn't matter. Just go out and mud stomp a Sec team in their house
 
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