Red Zone Offense

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

I simply do not like the play calling once we get to the red zone, and that IS all on the coaches.

 

[smokey_wasp]

I simply do not like the play calling once we get to the red zone, and that IS all on the coaches.

I think missing the tight ends was big there. There seems to be some hesitancy with Sims once the field shortens, too.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

I think missing the tight ends was big there. There seems to be some hesitancy with Sims once the field shortens, too.

How much is hesitancy on Sims' part and how much is poor play calling, I don't know. His hesitancy may be because of the plays. Time will tell.

 

[augustabuzz]

I simply do not like the play calling once we get to the red zone, and that IS all on the coaches.

It's not the play calling as much as it is scheme related especially in goal to go.

 

[Jacketman99]

Sims hesitancy is because if lack of experience. With the short field things are much more compressed in the red zone. It is just going to take a lot of practice and experience. At least this year we are making it to the red zone much more frequently than last year.

 

[Ibeeballin]

I simply do not like the play calling once we get to the red zone, and that IS all on the coaches.

What play call you didn’t like?

 

[JacketOff]

What play call you didn’t like?

All the ones that didn’t score. Throw those out and out the ones that score in

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

What play call you didn’t like?

I would have to go back and look at all of them to name any specific plays, but overall, we just seem not to have a real plan on offense once we are in the red zone. JMO

 

[Ibeeballin]

I would have to go back and look at all of them to name any specific plays, but overall, we just seem not to have a real plan on offense once we are in the red zone. JMO

This can’t be opinion a based comment.

 

[Coloradojacket]

I would have to go back and look at all of them to name any specific plays, but overall, we just seem not to have a real plan on offense once we are in the red zone. JMO

Well since ABC screwed up, at least here in my region, I missed 2 red zone plays, the ones right before the blocked kick. But if I had to guess, We need more power running and even use an option play as that has worked even last year. Stress the defense to the outside.

 

[Spalding Jacket]

Losing the TE’s and Mason limited our playcalling in the redzone. We lost the ability to play power football with the complimentary PA bootlegs to keep defenses honest.

 

[senoiajacket]

So for special teams, other than the blocked field goal I thought we did pretty well. They had no returns and we had a 73 yard return. Punting team was outstanding. The reason for the blocks is the kicker is kicking the ball too low. Did you notice the different trajectory when we switched kickers. Also we go a guy who puts kickoffs in the end zone.

For turnovers, the late ones were because we had a young guy pressing, Sims. His fumble was just a good slap and the missed mesh was just two Freshman trying to run it. All correctable.
What was evident to me, as I stated in another thread, while Gibbs is electric, he has some size to put on or he is more the scat back. We were missing Mason big time, particularly in the red zone. Older bigger stronger running back. Till we get him back if I were the coaches I would go with D Smith in the zone. he is a powerful runner. Oh and run the ball more overall.

In retrospect, sans the blocked filed goal (which admittedly, you cannot ignore) that game was our best special teams effort in recent memory)

 

[JacketOff]

In retrospect, sans the blocked filed goal (which admittedly, you cannot ignore) that game was our best special teams effort in recent memory)

2-3 of our wins in 2018 came from special teams alone. Either our execution, or the other team’s mistakes.

 

[forensicbuzz]

So for special teams, other than the blocked field goal I thought we did pretty well. They had no returns and we had a 73 yard return. Punting team was outstanding. The reason for the blocks is the kicker is kicking the ball too low. Did you notice the different trajectory when we switched kickers. Also we go a guy who puts kickoffs in the end zone.

For turnovers, the late ones were because we had a young guy pressing, Sims. His fumble was just a good slap and the missed mesh was just two Freshman trying to run it. All correctable.
What was evident to me, as I stated in another thread, while Gibbs is electric, he has some size to put on or he is more the scat back. We were missing Mason big time, particularly in the red zone. Older bigger stronger running back. Till we get him back if I were the coaches I would go with D Smith in the zone. he is a powerful runner. Oh and run the ball more overall.

Gibbs is 200#. That's no scat back. He's 5-6 pounds heavier than Dantae Smith. They both have good size for the Lightning back. Mason and Griffin are 20-30 pounds heavier and bring the Thunder.

 

[CuseJacket]

Well since ABC screwed up, at least here in my region, I missed 2 red zone plays, the ones right before the blocked kick. But if I had to guess, We need more power running and even use an option play as that has worked even last year. Stress the defense to the outside.

Our first turnover in the red zone was a fumble on the speed option to the outside

 

[g0lftime]

With Sims and our RB's I would like to see an option on the edge. I really miss the rocket toss.

 

[CuseJacket]

FYI I split this side bar off into its own thread from the Turnovers and Special Teams discussion

 

[smokey_wasp]

Our first turnover in the red zone was a fumble on the speed option to the outside

Looked like this should have been a pitch. Playcalling or execution? That is always the question.

 

[Kennethshannon20]

I don't think it is the play calling. I think it is the reads by the QB in the redzone. And that's not meant to be a knock, I understand he is young. I think he hesitates more and attempts to force things in the redzone and that hurts. He will improve.

 

[augustabuzz]

I don't think it is the play calling. I think it is the reads by the QB in the redzone. And that's not meant to be a knock, I understand he is young. I think he hesitates more and attempts to force things in the redzone and that hurts. He will improve.

The hesitation prevented him from securing the ball properly leading to the strip.