recruiting classes and off topic posts

[tmhunter52]

Heh. "Fail level slow" for Holyfield?

Maybe has a boxing future...

 

[Dustman]

For some dwagenfreude, check out the "mixed results" Dwagnation's 2019 draft class: https://www.redandblack.com/sports/...cle_17ffaaaa-3f00-11e9-8855-c7dfbd54b5a3.html

Dwagenfreude...

3 year plan?

 

[Madison Grant]

If we do decide to run some flexbone, this dude would be a perfect WR. Looks more like an H than an every down TE, but kids get bigger.

Was looking at Nauta as a comp. For some dwagenfreude, check out the "mixed results" Dwagnation's 2019 draft class: https://www.redandblack.com/sports/...cle_17ffaaaa-3f00-11e9-8855-c7dfbd54b5a3.html

Pot slows reaction time, impairs motivation and gives you the munchies.

 

[alentrekin]

Dwagenfreude...

3 year plan?

Kirby is building a Pipeline to the AAF.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Hopefully he's under the radar. Still waiting for us to reel in the big fish with all this hype around the program.

Me too! Recruiting yoda???

 

[LargeFO]

Me too! Recruiting yoda???

Jamious Griffin says hi.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Jamious Griffin says hi.

That was last class and at a position we’re already loaded. Where’s the 4* DT, DE or LB?

 

[LargeFO]

That was last class and at a position we’re already loaded. Where’s the 4* DT, DE or LB?

Loaded? Numbers don't necessarily equate to loaded. What other RBs on the roster had similar accolades to Griffin coming out?

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Loaded? Numbers don't necessarily equate to loaded. What other RBs on the roster had similar accolades to Griffin coming out?

The guys we have have done it in college.

 

[LargeFO]

The guys we have have done it in college.

You didn’t answer the question.

 

[UgaBlows]

That was last class and at a position we’re already loaded. Where’s the 4* DT, DE or LB?

I can’t decide if your really a hater of the new staff these days or your just messing with everyone?

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

That was last class and at a position we’re already loaded. Where’s the 4* DT, DE or LB?

That is when I know a difference has been made - when we get multiple consensus 4-star guys especially on the DL.

 

[Southpaw13]

That is when I know a difference has been made - when we get multiple consensus 4-star guys especially on the DL.

I fully anticipate that our recruiting will see an uptick. How much is TBD. It took Dabo a few years to get it going at Clemson, it's not gonna happen overnight here.... but I do anticipate better recruiting results.

 

[AlaGTech]

I fully anticipate that our recruiting will see an uptick. How much is TBD. It took Dabo a few years to get it going at Clemson, it's not gonna happen overnight here.... but I do anticipate better recruiting results.

Exactly.

And a good initial barometer that we're moving in the right direction is how we're doing against the rest of the ACC.

I think we can move from the bottom 1/4 to the top 1/4 in very short order.

I think CGC can put us in a position where we have a talent advantage over all our Coastal foes (except Mia) VERY quickly.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

I can’t decide if your really a hater of the new staff these days or your just messing with everyone?

I fully expect an uptick in recruiting and I’m pleased with efforts so far, but I prefer natural (real) sugar in my coolaid as opposed to the artificial sweetener floating in this thread.

The 4star rb is a good get but that’s not a major need to be honest. If we fail to land some 4star DL’s in this class it will be a major disappointment.

 

[LargeFO]

I fully expect an uptick in recruiting and I’m pleased with efforts so far, but I prefer natural (real) sugar in my coolaid as opposed to the artificial sweetener floating in this thread.

The 4star rb is a good get but that’s not a major need to be honest. If we fail to land some 4star DL’s in this class it will be a major disappointment.

The point is Griffin is the kind of quality we will likely start to land more of. He didn't have interest in playing in the old system. As far as the DL, last I checked we were 5 weeks ish into the new cycle so not really time to panic just quiteee yet.

 

[AlaGTech]

.... If we fail to land some 4star DL’s in this class it will be a major disappointment.

Wow, so I guess you think that's a realistic expectation.

Heck, I hope we do, too (land some 4* DLs), but for CGC's first year I'm looking for us to land kids (particularly on the LOS) with offers that will help move our talent needle past the rest of the Coastal.

Kids with offers from the likes of VT, UNC, Mia of the ACC and Ole Miss, MSSt, SCar, Ark, Mizzou of the SEC.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Wow, so I guess you think that's a realistic expectation.

Heck, I hope we do, too (land some 4* DLs), but for CGC's first year I'm looking for us to land kids (particularly on the LOS) with offers that will help move our talent needle past the rest of the Coastal.

Kids with offers from the likes of VT, UNC, Mia of the ACC and Ole Miss, MSSt, SCar, Ark, Mizzou of the SEC.

So it sounds like our expectations are parallel.

Like I said, I expect an uptick in recruiting on par with what’s been promised. Coach Collins set the bar, not me. Can’t promise a homerun and hit a double and expect me, or anybody else for that matter, to be happy.

I know it’s early in the process, waaaay early. I’m not the least bit disappointed at this point. My comments reflect my expectations projected forward to the next national signing day.

 

[AlaGTech]

So it sounds like our expectations are parallel.

Like I said, I expect an uptick in recruiting on par with what’s been promised. Coach Collins set the bar, not me. Can’t promise a homerun and hit a double and expect me to be happy..

Except I'm judging our success by a recruit's other offers rather than * rating.

Also, I'm not sure I know what CGC has "promised"?

But here's why I think we're all but GUARANTEED to recruit better:

1- Our recruiting will ABSOLUTELY improve if for no other reason than we're no longer running the 3O. (As I've said before, even CPJ would recruit better without the 3O). That's just a fact.

2- All indications are that more resources are being allocated to enable us to cast a wider recruiting net.

3- CGC and Staff. I think the 'Collins Factor' is real. TStan probably couldn't have made a better choice for this particular time in the history of our program.

And how do we know if it's working?

Imo, we should expect to at least be second only to Mia in Coastal Div roster talent within 3 more recruiting classes.

I think CGC can deliver that.

 

[AE 87]

Except I'm judging our success by a recruit's other offers rather than * rating.

Also, I'm not sure I know what CGC has "promised"?

But here's why I think we're all but GUARANTEED to recruit better:

1- Our recruiting will ABSOLUTELY improve if for no other reason than we're no longer running the 3O. (As I've said before, even CPJ would recruit better without the 3O). That's just a fact.

2- All indications are that more resources are being allocated to enable us to cast a wider recruiting net.

3- CGC and Staff. I think the 'Collins Factor' is real. TStan probably couldn't have made a better choice for this particular time in the history of our program.

And how do we know if it's working?

Imo, we should expect to at least be second only to Mia in Coastal Div roster talent within 3 more recruiting classes.

I think CGC can deliver that.

Fwiw, you will always lose credibility with a subset of educated readers when you follow an opinion with the expression, "That's just a fact." Rightly or wrongly, it's like making grammar or spelling errors in a job application. That's a fact (I can say that because it's true for me, and that means there's a subset of at least one person).

A fact would be that our recruiting did not decline under Johnson from most years under Gailey. The current line is that the one outlier year of great recruiting for Gailey stemmed from CGC's role as Director of Player Personnel. So, I conclude that improvement in recruiting now would more likely be attributable to the changes made by CGC off the field rather than the changes in offense.

Fwiw, I'm inclined to share your optimism about CGC and recruiting. My only hesitancy comes from our experience over the last few years with the basketball team.