Quick Lane Bowl Postgame Discussion

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RamblinRed said:
That was a crappy way to go out, but I think they basically maximized how many wins this year's team could get.
The idea that GT should have won vs Duke and Pitt is laughable. GT never led in either of those games.
Fans tend to remember games they think they should have won but forget the games they could have lost.
GT was very fortunate to go 2-2 over its final 4 games. The offense basically stopped working the last 4 games of the season (after UNC). The most yards GT had in those 4 games was 305 against UVA (who had 403) and that was the only game it hit 30 points where with the D and ST teams scored 9 points. Against Miami GT had almost 1/4 of its offense on its 1st drive and scored 13 points off of Miami TO where GT's offense only produced 46 yds of offense.

GT could very easily have lost to Miami and UVA and UVA was probably spitting mad they lost.

The game against MN reminded me alot of the game against Pitt, except the D did a better job in the first half of keeping the score close, but then fell apart in the 2nd half. The offense never looked good as compared to some of the Pitt game. Unfortunately this year's offense tended to sputter anytime it faced a defense that provided a modicum of resistance. It had 3 good games against P5 opponents and they happened to be the 3 worst P5 defensive teams we played - L'ville, VT and UNC. Outside of those 3 games the offense basically failed to score more than 21 points. 9 points from D and ST against UVA and OT. 13 of 27 points against Miami due to Miami TO's deep in GT territory.

I also think it was somewhat poor form for him to go off on the press afterwards. I remember talking to guys on the Navy board when we hired him. They mentioned when he was winning you would love him as the arrogant truth teller and fighter. But when he was losing his personality wears on the fanbase and press because that same attitude comes off as smug and condescending. The press is always going to ding you at times, but if you want to have good relations with them it is something you have to work on.
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Great post, the truth hurts sometimes.
 
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Vespidae said:
Never pick a fight with anyone who buys ink by the barrel.

The PGA Tour does this well. No matter how crappy they played, “This is a wonderful course, and the fans are just great. I look forward to trying again next year.” It’s not hard.
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Those guys (golfers) are entrepreneurs in every sense of the word. No guaranteed contracts. They earn exactly what they deserve to based on their play. No more and no less. And many of them make more off the course in endorsements than they do by playing golf. When it comes to PR/media relations/marketing savvy, those guys truly get it.
 
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Vespidae said:
From the game, watching it and reading CPJs comments about it ...
  • The players weren’t excited about it and didn’t want to be there.
  • CPJ wasn’t excited about it and didn’t want to be there.
  • The sponsor wasn’t excited about it and didn’t want to be there.
But ... Minnesota was. And ...

It did sell a few more lube jobs. Maybe.
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All good reason to embarrassed yourself and your fans. That is the job of the coaching staff to get the players ready to play, which the coaching staff did a poor job. If you don't want to play in a bowl than decline it and make up some excuse . I'm so so so very happy we are not retaining any of those coaches.
 
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4shotB said:
Those guys (golfers) are entrepreneurs in every sense of the word. No guaranteed contracts. They earn exactly what they deserve to based on their play. No more and no less. And many of them make more off the course in endorsements than they do by playing golf. When it comes to PR/media relations/marketing savvy, those guys truly get it.
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This is one reason I think coaches should have part of their pay based on attendance, concessions and merchandising. There’s no better way to match the product the coach puts on the field with his pocketbook.
 

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stech81 said:
That was the most ill prepared I have seen a Tech team at any time since the B** L**** years. I was very disappointed when CGC did not keep any coaches off this staff, well not any more. I know some of the players said they were disappointed not to be picked for a better bowl, you may want to watch the film of this game and you will see why you were picked to play in this game. I can understand Clemson and uga but this was Minnesota not a great team maybe not a good team. As a fan of CPJ thanks for what you did at Tech and thanks for having the team so ill prepared for this game it does help me know it was time for you to go.
Note to the AD if at any time a coach leaves it would be a good idea not to let them coach in a bowl game.
Time to move on and everyone get behind the new coaching staff.
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Unique situation. NO new coach could have coached a team that only knows CPJ’s offense, because no new coach knows or runs his offense. Plus, the down and distance charts are just in CPJ’s head.
 

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RamblinRed said:
That was a crappy way to go out, but I think they basically maximized how many wins this year's team could get.
The idea that GT should have won vs Duke and Pitt is laughable. GT never led in either of those games.
Fans tend to remember games they think they should have won but forget the games they could have lost.
GT was very fortunate to go 2-2 over its final 4 games. The offense basically stopped working the last 4 games of the season (after UNC). The most yards GT had in those 4 games was 305 against UVA (who had 403) and that was the only game it hit 30 points where with the D and ST teams scored 9 points. Against Miami GT had almost 1/4 of its offense on its 1st drive and scored 13 points off of Miami TO where GT's offense only produced 46 yds of offense.

GT could very easily have lost to Miami and UVA and UVA was probably spitting mad they lost.

The game against MN reminded me alot of the game against Pitt, except the D did a better job in the first half of keeping the score close, but then fell apart in the 2nd half. The offense never looked good as compared to some of the Pitt game. Unfortunately this year's offense tended to sputter anytime it faced a defense that provided a modicum of resistance. It had 3 good games against P5 opponents and they happened to be the 3 worst P5 defensive teams we played - L'ville, VT and UNC. Outside of those 3 games the offense basically failed to score more than 21 points. 9 points from D and ST against UVA and OT. 13 of 27 points against Miami due to Miami TO's deep in GT territory.

I also think it was somewhat poor form for him to go off on the press afterwards. I remember talking to guys on the Navy board when we hired him. They mentioned when he was winning you would love him as the arrogant truth teller and fighter. But when he was losing his personality wears on the fanbase and press because that same attitude comes off as smug and condescending. The press is always going to ding you at times, but if you want to have good relations with them it is something you have to work on.
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It could have easily been 30-0 at halftime against Minnesota. 3 trips deep into our side that resulted in only 6 points.
 
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This is one reason I think coaches should have part of their pay based on attendance, concessions and merchandising. There’s no better way to match the product the coach puts on the field with his pocketbook.
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Good luck finding a decent coach at Tech once this is implemented.
 

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wvGT11 said:
Took some time to decompress after last night.
Some may say that was a fitting way for CPJ to go as many believe the option just can't work anymore and seeing that our last great team was '14 and maybe '16 that might be true.
We sure didn't look like the same team that rebounded through the season, we looked like a team that was out of sync, hungover from uga and just plain didn't want to be there.
Worst of all this team got press cause they thought we deserved a better bowl, yet we didn't even look like we belonged in this bowl.
All phases of the game looked off. Just wish Oliver had come in early on

CPJ said in his presser they didn't do one on ones because he didn't want to risk injuries, but it sure looked like we needed it that or this team thought Minnesota was going to be a cupcake team. Minnesota sure looked like they practiced for the option.
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As regards how our team rebounded over the season - it may be time to reflect on who we rebounded against.

Not trying to disrespect opponents, but winning the ACC Coastal as a goal is like trying to be the kid king on your street - When you are 11 and all the other kids are 6-8 years old.

Our HC should get a bonus for beating ugag, not puke or uvag.
 

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bwelbo said:
It could have easily been 30-0 at halftime against Minnesota. 3 trips deep into our side that resulted in only 6 points.
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Defense kept us in the game as long as they could. It was difficult to see what was happening with the O (beside not moving the ball) at the game because of the low slope of the stands. Minnesota players overall looked a lot bigger than ours.
 
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GT05 said:
Why you people worry about how this ended or the way cpj rolled out is crazy.
It’s time. Thank the Lord. Let him be a grouch somewhere else- not I, or anyone on here owes him a thing. He made his bed. Night night...
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Honestly the game last night sucked in all facets, but we GT fans DO NOT need to try tearing down Paul Johnson and the past 11 years just to get their final shots in. I’m going to support Collins like hell, while still missing the CPJ era. If you hated CPJ, just freaking let it go and focus on the future. We can build up Geoff’s regime without tearing down Paul’s.
Btw, all GT fans SHOULD be bothered by how his career here ended, because it was GT on the field being represented. If you were happy to see us play like crap because it “proved” to you that our system was flawed, then you’re a terrible, selfish fan.
 

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Defense kept us in the game as long as they could. It was difficult to see what was happening with the O (beside not moving the ball) at the game because of the low slope of the stands. Minnesota players overall looked a lot bigger than ours.
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They kept good depth and spacing, and then attacked. We had a few misreads, missed blocks, nothing terrible, but looked rusty. The plays to me that looked like they would work were not to dilly dally or counter or any of that, but rather just attack. Like Oliver’s plays - QB sweep, QB follow. When Oliver came in, they did work, and the first string defense was still in. But by then it was too late.

It was one of those weird games where everything went wrong. We couldn’t punt, Juanyeh hurt his knee, Malik got an unsportsmanlike, we played guys like Askew most of the game when he never plays as best I can tell. Etc etc etc
 

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Maybe this was CPJ's way of making sure the entire fanbase embraced the new coach and offense and no one would continue to argue for the TO approach...always thinking about others, that CPJ!
 
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