BigDaddyBuzz
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 1,189
Mel Tucker to Colorado
I ain’t making sh— up you so called football experts on here need to get out and talk to high school players and then you might have a idea what they think and you might learn something about GT and how the football program is run because by what some of you post on here you don’t have a clue .I was told GT didn’t have a player that could play in the 2deep at ugag and some of you all act like some asst coach is gonna come in here and win bu— s—- . It’s gonna take someone with a lot of recruiting experience to fix this
Every DC had problems here because of talent level which was related to the 3oMinus the GT education, didn’t we say something similar about Groh?
100%?Mel Tucker to Colorado
Clem’s cheat like hell thats why they win I don’t believe that GT will do this.Fixed that last sentence for you. Paul had 31 years of coaching experience but I think we all can agree he left little to be desired in the recruiting department. That was his ultimate downfall. That and his loyalty to less than stellar asst. coaches like Sewak and Lamar Owens.
If Eliot has experienced anything it’s Dabo’s ability to hire good coordinators and recruit well. Dabo was never even a coordinator but he has a ring. Again your argument that a lot of coaching experience is required doesn’t mean it’s a law or rule. Dabo has proven that wrong.
Clem’s cheat like hell thats why they win I don’t believe that GT will do this.
Anyone who thinks Parker Braun isn’t on the two deep at UGA has lost their mind. If you buy into that kind of talk, then I am truly sorry for you man.I was told GT didn’t have a player that could play in the 2deep at ugag
Wow 1out of 44 maybe we’re rolling nowAnyone who thinks Parker Braun isn’t on the two deep at UGA has lost their mind. If you buy into that kind of talk, then I am truly sorry for you man.
Wow 1out of 44 maybe we’re rolling now
Sounds like he has UGA envy and would rather disparage our players. I am sad these fans exist.I don’t know what your point is other than PJ was a subpar recruiter and pretty much everyone on staff. Wiz would be worse. Guaranteed.
Dude, you’re grossly exaggerating the situation. What exactly is your agenda in running down our current student athletes?Wow 1out of 44 maybe we’re rolling now
You're the one that needs to wake up. Look at his background, he's not a dumb jock and he can figure out how to get the kids that qualify interested in the ATL college football team. Even Paul said in his exit interview the challenges here recruiting are nothing that can't be overcome, and every school has challenges. We need STRONG recruiters and he's definitely that.
I think limited practice time combined with the rigorous academic workload other schools’ players don’t have to contend and with the complicated/time consuming nature of option football made it near impossible to fully implement the entire playbook. CPJ found out that if you try to do too much, you can’t master any of it and that this was especially true at GT due to the aforementioned aspects.Going outside the "GT bubble" and outside the local papers, SI chimes in about CPJ stepping down and GT's path forward:
https://www.si.com/college-football...ech-coaching-candidates-ken-whisenhunt-option
To me, this is the interesting part of the article:
There’s a much easier way, however—and it doesn’t have to be as simple as replacing Johnson with another coach from one of the academies or another program that runs an offense steeped in option principles. Instead, Georgia Tech can look at any number of offensive minds who run spread schemes that incorporate plenty of option elements, which has become the norm around the college game and has gradually infiltrated the NFL as well. No matter who they hire, it would be an adjustment for the Yellow Jackets to pass the ball more than 10 times a game, but with the right resourceful mind pulling the strings, any number of creative college coaches could oversee a transition not nearly as jarring as pivoting to a pro-style scheme.
A lot of us think what CPJ does is unique. In fact, it's only unique in the high percentage that we choose operate the option schemes. The option schemes themselves are pretty prevalent in college (and some NFL). Heck, UVA ran triple option plays against us this year, but no one is calling UVA a triple option team. Going back to SI's article about the CPJ's spread option ( https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/27/triple-option-offense-army-georgia-tech ), there's a reason why good coaches have gone to CPJ for guidance, BUT there's also a good reason why those same coaches don't operate those same schemes at the high percentage or market those schemes: the perception of them hurts (off the field) as much as it helps (on the field). CPJ's offense works. No one can doubt that. But in many ways, it's a zero sum proposition.
I've always contended that CPJ had the tools to "modernize" his offense already in hand: Emphasize the Run n Shoot aspects of his offense more, and complement them with his option schemes. One day, some enterprising coach will do just that. As devastating as CPJ's offense was rushing the ball, whoever "flips the script" will take the entire offense to another level. It will be beautiful to watch when it happens.
He’s just making a very valid pointSounds like he has UGA envy and would rather disparage our players. I am sad these fans exist.
Yes, I was there......hazy (drunken) memories of that.......only win all season.Well in 1981 we did beat Alabama
I don't think CPJ had any trouble passing more when we had the QBs and receivers to make it work. Just don't think he did the last couple of years. And since he didn't, did not spend the practice time on it, thus not much practice blocking, which leads to game time disaster.I think limited practice time combined with the rigorous academic workload other schools’ players don’t have to contend and with the complicated/time consuming nature of option football made it near impossible to fully implement the entire playbook. CPJ found out that if you try to do too much, you can’t master any of it and that this was especially true at GT due to the aforementioned aspects.
Disagree completely...it is not a matter of strong recruiters.......it is the $$$$$ to provide sufficient staff and travelYou're the one that needs to wake up. Look at his background, he's not a dumb jock and he can figure out how to get the kids that qualify interested in the ATL college football team. Even Paul said in his exit interview the challenges here recruiting are nothing that can't be overcome, and every school has challenges. We need STRONG recruiters and he's definitely that.