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stinger 1957

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If we played tomorrow, our interior depth could look like this…

Jordan van den Berg 6’3 305
Matthew Alexander UCF 6’3 295
Jason Moore 6’2 295
Landen Marshall 6’2 285
Shymeik Jones 6’5 300
Christian Garrett 6’4 290
Monroe, you might add Cade Adams to that list, keep hearing his name mentioned from players and coaches and he is listed at 285, 6' 0". Guessing he could play inside.
 

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The strategies are starting to take shape. Louisville has all but abandoned recruiting out of HS in favor of portal hunting. I feel like that is unsustainable for a few reasons - team cohesion will plummet which increases the risk of falling apart completely (a la FSU this year) and you’re all but announcing to the world that you can’t develop you own players.
It certainly would not work for Tech. We can take only so many plug and play players at a time since it’s not only about building team chemistry but also about -gasp education. Tech is selling more than just a one year starting role.
 

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Where should a team like GT put most of its time, effort and money - recruiting high school kids or portal transfers?

High School recruiting, IMHO. For a few reasons.

Tech, at least at the moment, is a second tier football program. We're an upper-mid ACC program. (But hopefully rising.) Our natural spot in the current order is as a developmental program. We're not regularly going to compete for the Blue Chips and top tier 'free agents'. I believe we should lean into that instead of trying to be something we're not. We should focus on scouting and developing relationships with High School players and coaches. Find the diamonds in the rough and coach them up.

Which, we have a somewhat unique advantage in that because we're located in the heart of Atlanta, Georgia. The center of arguably the richest talent pool for Football recruiting in the country. We have the opportunity to build relationships and be a home-town-hero option for some players that are 'out of our league'. Four and Five-star players with long offer sheets, like Josh Petty and Tae Harris. We evidently do have the NIL resources to give those players a square deal when one wants to be here.

But, we don't have the deep pockets to compete with the dumb money SEC schools for the mercenary free agents. Tech has a deep-pocketed alumni base. But we aren't lined up to shower money on athletics. We're all numbers-geeks and engineers, we want to see a clear business plan and ROI. We can't compete trying to play the buy-a-team game. Which, personally, I don't think works very well anyway. In all team sports, I believe team culture and 'locker room' are the most important factors in building a winning team. I correctly predicted that F$U wasn't going to live up to the hype this year for exactly that reason. I'd much rather us build a team of players that want to be here and are bought in on the team.

Which, transfers are going to be a fact of life in this current era. I don't think the Clemson head-in-sand model works either. Every team is going to have players leave for greener pa$ture$, it is what it is. I also, believe that will be a particular problem for teams relying on NIL free agents; easy come, easy go to next year's bigger check.

But another advantage of the factors above: building relationships, our location, and building a good locker room culture; is that we have the opportunity to be the 'come home' school for players we missed out on the first time around. We have the opportunity to fill the gaps with high quality players who want to come back and be here. But, hopefully, as Key builds the program we'll have fewer gaps that need to be filled.
 

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Where should a team like GT put most of its time, effort and money - recruiting high school kids or portal transfers?
I don't think high school kids will make a huge impact on our success in the long run to be honest. Paying kids a ton of money, then spending time to develop them only to watch them take even more money to go elsewhere isn't a winning strategy.
 

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I think we approach team building like the Atlanta Braves. We build as much as possible through high school recruiting and player development. We strategically go after transfers. There are teams that spend more, while we focus on spending for what fits our team.

You don’t have to be the Yankees or Dodgers to compete, but it helps.
 

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I don't think high school kids will make a huge impact on our success in the long run to be honest. Paying kids a ton of money, then spending time to develop them only to watch them take even more money to go elsewhere isn't a winning strategy.
I wouldn't say that...if that is our niche then maybe we can have some big years along the way...but we are going to have to play them...forget redshirts...play them ASAP. If it is gonna be business then it has to be business...can't worry about hurting the feelings of a junior if the freshman needs/deserves some playing time...
 

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I wouldn't say that...if that is our niche then maybe we can have some big years along the way...but we are going to have to play them...forget redshirts...play them ASAP. If it is gonna be business then it has to be business...can't worry about hurting the feelings of a junior if the freshman needs/deserves some playing time...
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GT needs to just bring in good players. Period. Doesn't matter if they're from High School or from Portal transfers.

You can invest time and money into a player that you developed since he was a freshmen, just to see him leave the program for more $$$. We've already seen it happen...multiple times.

We've also brought in players from the portal who have been instrumental in turning this program around. Haynes King is the biggest example, but guys like Makius Scott/Chase Lane/Jackson Hawes/Jordan Van Den Berg are/were also important to the success of this program.

IMO, GT needs to take a year by year approach. Recruiting at the HS level is important, but so is working the transfer Portal. GT can't afford to focus just solely on the HS level, get caught off guard when someone transfers out, and have to rely on guys that aren't ready. IMO, the Portal has been much more of a blessing for GT than a curse, and this offseason is a good example.
 
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Ultimately we shouild see more parity in CFB it seems to me. Think that is the idea.
I don’t necessarily think it will result in a ton of parity top to bottom, but I do think it will be the end of multi-year dynasty runs akin to what we’ve seen Bama, Clemson, and UGA do recently. The top tier teams will remain in the top tier, but instead of 4-5 teams having a legit shot at a natty in a given year (that number was less than 4 in some very recent years), there will be 10-15 any given year than can win it all. I really don’t think there will be any real Cinderella type teams (SMU, Boise, ASU) who make deep runs due to the nature of football and talent disparities that will continue to exist well into the future. You probably will see 3-loss SEC and B1G make runs because they drew a tough regular season schedule and/or were beat up with injuries throughout the year and don’t get healthy until playoff time.
 

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The NFL has seen it's popularity explode when it began to bill itself as "the league of parity". It's good for any league to be able to capture as many fan based as it can, and parity is how you achieve that.
Parity is good for the NFL. And still it is good to have a couple of teams that are consistently very good. KC now. NE for years. Yet they need rivals as Dallas and SF were in the 1980s & 1990s.

The NFL does everything possible to make sure every team has a fairly equal chance. The poorly run organizations quickly stand out. It usually starts with. Billionaire owner who thinks he know a lot about football but like most he is no more knowledgeable than any of us. Well he knew something to make his billions.
 

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Parity is good for the NFL. And still it is good to have a couple of teams that are consistently very good. KC now. NE for years. Yet they need rivals as Dallas and SF were in the 1980s & 1990s.

The NFL does everything possible to make sure every team has a fairly equal chance. The poorly run organizations quickly stand out. It usually starts with. Billionaire owner who thinks he know a lot about football but like most he is no more knowledgeable than any of us. Well he knew something to make his billions.
Sure have seen a lot of owners screw up their franchises over the years I've been watching. There are short term dynasties in the NFL but they all saeem to fall. Seems some get stuck in the middle and can't seem to get to the top or the bottom. Looks like in order to get to the top in the NFL you first have to get to the bottom. Hire the best personnel edvaluator there is, and build the core of a team over the next 3 or so drafts. Watched CCG do this with both KC and Buffalo. He was one of the best talent evaluators as Bellichik has also been.
Jerry Jones seems to be stuck in the middle. Just my observation, certainly not the gospel.
 
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