Pastner wanting ugag transfer
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MGTfan
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Eric Reveno certainly knows more about big men than I do. Coaching staff clearly wanted him, so I’m glad we got him.
Offensive game needs a ton of work, but we’ve seen what this staff turned Moses into. Hopefully they can do it again.
Offensive game needs a ton of work, but we’ve seen what this staff turned Moses into. Hopefully they can do it again.
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Welcome Mr. Howard! I believe has has to sit a year per rules, but will hopefully work well in the middle with Gigiberia.
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That escalated quickly...
Unless the NCAA passes the one time transfer rule before next season, interesting what the thought behind this one is given we have two freshmen posts players coming in, and really no experience in the post outside of Wright.
IF the NCAA does pass the rule, it could be a case where our coaches are willing to take his defensive presence given that we will have 3 proven scorers (Alvarado, Devoe, Wright) and a potential double digit scorer in Maxwell. It would also free Wright to play the 4 where he's most effective.
LOTS of "ifs" with Howard though. IMO, Reveno's record with post players gives him the benefit of the doubt, so we'll see how it plays out.
Unless the NCAA passes the one time transfer rule before next season, interesting what the thought behind this one is given we have two freshmen posts players coming in, and really no experience in the post outside of Wright.
IF the NCAA does pass the rule, it could be a case where our coaches are willing to take his defensive presence given that we will have 3 proven scorers (Alvarado, Devoe, Wright) and a potential double digit scorer in Maxwell. It would also free Wright to play the 4 where he's most effective.
LOTS of "ifs" with Howard though. IMO, Reveno's record with post players gives him the benefit of the doubt, so we'll see how it plays out.
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Gotta believe 2 of our coaches Really wanted the guy. So i am thrilled.
Nobody is a 100% guarantee one way or the other.
For all i know this kid may even be a magnet for someone else.
Nobody is a 100% guarantee one way or the other.
For all i know this kid may even be a magnet for someone else.
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We really need a 3pt specialist. That was supposed to be Sjolund and Parham. I gotta say, Bubba has the highest arching shot I've ever seen. Was not impressed with his 3 game this yr
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If we were bringing someone that had to sit a year I was hoping it would be a high level PG not a big that scored 1ppg.... Unless the staff is playing the immediate transfer rule for then 21-22 season to land Jose’s replacement. I don’t want Devoe as the primary ball handler.
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I think the main idea behind this is Howard is a potential help at a position of need that we already evaluated and established a relationship with. With recruiting being limited the staff probably has less of a grasp on where they stand in the 21 recruiting class than they might otherwise. What this move does do, even if he isn't available next year, is give us a solid three man rotation inside with him, Meka, and Saba in 21. That allows us to focus more on the guards and wings, and just target recruit bigs we have a high interest in, and not have to spend as much into recruiting backup plans. Furthermore, I think most people believe the rule change will go through and so he'll be available next year. If so that gives us a true backup center and while people were hoping for a grad transfer big they need to realize that the transfer portal isn't infinite and doesn't always have the piece that you need. IMO there is only one name I've seen that really peaks my interest in that regard and that is Markusson. Also, while people are speculating with Moses at the 5, I don't believe that is the view the staff has. I think Moses will still be at the 4 and if we can get Markusson or Sotto, or some other better option at the 5, we will go after it, but if not Saba will start and now we have a 15 mpg defender we can put in there.
Lastly, and very importantly, we had 3 openings to use. I don't think this prevents us from going after either a grad transfer big, a PG recruit to gain experience next year, or a sit one PG transfer either.
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If he does do well here, that should be a nice little FU to the ugh-uh coaching staff. Gotta like that!
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Well unlike Howard, Saba is rated as a top 100 player nationally.
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You are so correct. Rev is unbelievable. We could be very strong inside for the next 3 - 4 years
I (kinda) do too, but this is a different animal than the ones you cited. Lammers was superior skill-wise, Banks was a fairly highly-rated guy overall, and Wright was always a superior athlete. He's clearly worked hard on his game in an uncommon way, to all their credits.
What I'm saying is each of those three had a base of skill or athleticism to build from. This latest iteration will be a major undertaking. I'm sure they're up to the challenge but the question becomes will they have the time to see it through.
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So...you're agreeing with what I said? Outside of your comments on the non-post postions (I'm not disagreeing with what you said with respect to that...I just didn't comment on them), I think we are in agreement.
I wouldn't be too quick to assume the one free transfer rule is a slam dunk. Couple of things:
1. The meeting to pass the rule is in April. Given everything going on with the virus, that meeting may never happen this year. It's a totally different environment now than when the rule was proposed.
2. The vast majority of coaches are in opposition to the proposed transfer rule. IMO, it's good rule (I've pounded the table on this for years), but my opinion doesn't matter...the head coaches opinion (mainly of football and basketball) matter a LOT. Given that the meeting might not occur, the virus could give the NCAA the excuse to table it for next year's meeting when things would theoretically be settled (let's hope), and gives them more time to work with head coaches to appease them. Who knows what the rule will look like when it come out of the other end of the tunnel.
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Exactly. A solid, established post man and a strong wing shooter could make our team look very formidable, so I'm not sure why we insist on going after project after project, it's just annoying. Certainly, we have Moses Wright, and I love Moses and have loved his progression, but then we have an Evan Cole, a Didenko, a Ogbonda, a Sjolund. I hope Pastner makes me eat crow and Howard is fantastic for us, but I think we still need to get 1-2 more established transfer players.
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I liked Evan Cole's development. He didn't have the progression that Moses has, but Cole next year would have been a good player for us. He was showing flashes of being a good player for us with more minutes, but now some other team will benefit. That's one of the problems with the "get old, stay old" plan...kids have to stick around to "get old" for it to truly pay off. Of course, it works both ways because we have benefitted from transfers in (namely Banks).
If the transfer rule passes, it will be interesting to see how the staff's "get old, stay old" game plan plays out.
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Although Howard would never be my 1st choice as a transfer big, I am reasonably happy with this. It is possible the NCAA will make 1st time transfers eligible immediately, but either way he looks like a guy who can give us some minutes at the 5. I agree. These are not likely to be great minutes at first, but he should be better in 2020 than he was in 2019. Especially with Reveno pushing and teaching him.