Pastner cleared of Ron Bell lies

YJMD

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Same burden of proof in civil court and title IX -- preponderance of evidence (more likely than not), but the process absolutely differs.
 

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Has anyone actually seen a copy of the Fisher Phillips report? I keep seeing references to Pastner's attorney releasing it, but have not actually seen it available anywhere.
 

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Ron’s attorney withdrawing from the case is a very big deal. Paul Gattone is not a high profile attorney but he looks like he knows his way around a courtroom. He most likely took the case on a contingency basis. That means he isn’t paid anything up front but collects a percentage of any recovery from the counterclaim that CJP raped and attacked JP. If JP and RB don’t collect than the attorney doesn’t get paid and attorneys (obviously) hate that. Some cases come together while others fall apart. If I’m representing someone on a contingency basis and the case falls apart I withdraw ASAP.

Gattone didn’t just withdraw; he accused his clients of lying about the evidence they had and refusing to cooperate. What this means is that RB and JP will have a really rough time getting new counsel. Everyone in the Pima County legal community knows about the case – it’s high profile - and gossips about it. (How do I know this? Because all courthouses are like this. Attorneys are the worst gossips you’ve ever seen). The Defendants will never get any attorney to take this on a contingency basis.

Josh Pastner is still very popular in Arizona. No high profile attorney will touch this case without a monstrous retainer. Otherwise it’s just not worth the aggravation of getting in bed with 2 crazy people. If he walked into my office I would demand a $50,000.00 non- refundable retainer, charge him $500 an hour and demand a retainer agreement that once the balance goes under $25,000.00 he must immediately replenish it to $50K or I am allowed to automatically withdraw. Most attorneys would demand at least a 100K retainer. If he wants to pursue the counterclaim to verdict it will cost him several hundred thousand dollars in attorney fees, along with the very real possibility that he'll be paying CJP's attorney fees as well.

CJP has Miracle Whips and JP by the short hairs. If I was representing CJP I would demand an apology under oath along with payment of my attorney fees and an airtight agreement with liquidated damages mandating that he doesn’t come near me or my family or make any further allegations. (Liquidated damages specify a sum certain for each violation of the agreement).

The independent investigation, although not admissible in court, totally changed the national narrative about the case. The attorneys’ withdrawal- and the nasty way they did it – further seals their fate. RB and JP are rapidly running out of options.
 

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Good that much is behind us. Still two assistant coaches are gone. Replacements appear to be of lesser expertise. Time will tell. Recruiting probably took a hit. Again time will tell. I am certainly happy this is over, but I doubt we come out of this unscathed.
 

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Good that much is behind us. Still two assistant coaches are gone. Replacements appear to be of lesser expertise. Time will tell. Recruiting probably took a hit. Again time will tell. I am certainly happy this is over, but I doubt we come out of this unscathed.

Neither of the assistant coaches leaving had anything to do with this and one left for a head coaching job. I doubt recruiting took a hit. Face it. Ron failed bigly.
 

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Good that much is behind us. Still two assistant coaches are gone. Replacements appear to be of lesser expertise. Time will tell. Recruiting probably took a hit. Again time will tell. I am certainly happy this is over, but I doubt we come out of this unscathed.

There is no correlation between coaching changes and this douche. Also, the more I keep hearing about Anthony Wilkins the more I like the hire.

I also have no desire to bag on DLab, but if Jules pulls Watson, he will have already landed a more talented player for us than CDL ever did.

Right now there is no reason to think recruiting took a hit. I think the biggest hit was in gameplanning. I thought we looked out best last season when it was reported that Hardy drew up the game plan. He was the one that finally got us out of that terrible 2 big lineup.

Then again, Mike Dunleavy Sr trusted Wilkins with game planning at Tulane. Who is anyone here to question a coach like MD Sr
 
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