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What is your decision regarding our current Head Basketball coach, for me it is a tough, tough decision. Unless we have a big time hire to bring in, I say we keep him. What say you
 

gt69hjcollins

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We definitely need to keep BG. Think about the following:

a) BG operates with class and his integrity is without question. I do not think we could find a coach to represent Georgia Tech in a better fashion.

b) BG found ways to improve the performance of his team throughout the year.

c) BG has shown he has the capability of bringing in players to meet his team’s needs. I have confidence he can do the same thing next year. In any case I feel like BG will improve our team the “right way”.

d) He is working on his ability to recruit players and has improved in that area while operating with not the strongest support.

e) His teams play hard for him. He promotes team play and I personally appreciate that concept and would hope most Tech fans do also. Tony Bennett has been successful at Virginia promoting that concept and BG will also be successful here.
 

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We definitely need to keep BG. Think about the following:

a) BG operates with class and his integrity is without question. I do not think we could find a coach to represent Georgia Tech in a better fashion.

b) BG found ways to improve the performance of his team throughout the year.

c) BG has shown he has the capability of bringing in players to meet his team’s needs. I have confidence he can do the same thing next year. In any case I feel like BG will improve our team the “right way”.

d) He is working on his ability to recruit players and has improved in that area while operating with not the strongest support.

e) His teams play hard for him. He promotes team play and I personally appreciate that concept and would hope most Tech fans do also. Tony Bennett has been successful at Virginia promoting that concept and BG will also be successful here.

A)He's the only good guy in CBB?
B) we played a weak schedule after starting 2-8 though ND, Virginia were nice wins.
C) digging through transfer lists to fill your coffers because you can't recruit your own state LAODED with talent is not sustainable and provides zero class continuity or stability.
D) that's not true. This isn't a big impact class he has coming in. It's a nice class. No burger boys, no one over 3*. His best class was his first one. 25% of them lasted 4 years and decisions made in that class doomed the next 4 years.
E) there are other coaches, who win,whose players play hard for their coach.

The facts:

Zero NCAA tournament appearances
30.7 ACC winning % through 88 games
His 5 years are worse than Hewitts worst 5 years (total)
Best ACC finish is 9th
CAREER 57.9% Winning %
CAREER 44.9% Conference winning %


I don't understand this settling for a guy just because he's nice and the kids that he convinced to come play for him want him to stay.

The next guy may be a nice guy. He will probably graduate players. And the kids who decide to attend GT for 4 years and play basketball for him will probably like him and desire to play for him as well.
 

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I was on board with firing him last year but now I think we should give him 1 more year. Helps both parties in the sense that GT isn't paying for 3 bball coaches at once and BG can show some improvement still to help him land his next job.
 

ramblinwreck1378

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I was on board with firing him last year but now I think we should give him 1 more year. Helps both parties in the sense that GT isn't paying for 3 bball coaches at once and BG can show some improvement still to help him land his next job.
You can't sacrifice the 2017 recruiting class because you don't want to pony up and pay what has become a lame duck coach. This class is loaded - 9 players in 247s top 72 - only one of which is committed (Davion Mitchell). With Gregory I doubt we get any of them.
 

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I was on board with firing him last year but now I think we should give him 1 more year. Helps both parties in the sense that GT isn't paying for 3 bball coaches at once and BG can show some improvement still to help him land his next job.
On another site someone put this more eloquently than this but here it goes. Keep him another year, do not extend his contract, and make any future extensions contingent on much improved performance. If he is willing to forego a buy out clause because he has faith that he is turning the program around, then give him another year. If Tech plays this right they are in a strong bargaining position. Let him prove that this year was not a fluke. But let him prove it one year at a time.
 

ChasonBaller

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I want him gone, right after the NIT...it is most likely not happening which is sad. He is late on almost every adjustment, and it took him 4 years to start running the floor. That should have been step 1. His recruiting class this year is solid but not on the level GT should be at.
 

TheSilasSonRising

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- GT played a weak schedule? Wow.

- I wish all our teams played with the heart his teams do. I wish 1/2 the profs at GT taught with the integrity and energy he coaches with.

- thanks to the, it would appear, frugality of the 17% of GT grads that are suppose to be millionaires, it is insane to pay for THREE BB coaches at the same time. We will become the definition of "laughing stock" unless some really, really rich dude steps up.

- a case could be made for his dismissal based on record alone, but if we can not hire a name it would rank right up their on the idiot meter with leaving the SEC / hiring curry over spurrier / hiring Gailey / hiring Carson / hiring Morrison / hiring fulcher / and maybe, at this point, firing Hewitt as things have worked out.
 

SwarmArmy

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I'd give CBG one more year and here's why: The ACC is a tough league to figure out for any outside coach. He would have to go through the same growing pains and make the same mistakes that CBG has made in these past few years in the ACC. CBG seems to have (finally) figured out the ACC and is on the up. Now is not the time to fire him, I think. Give him one more year.

A lot of folks here were calling for Tech to replace CBG with Archie Miller. Look at what a mid-level ACC team (Syracuse) did to Dayton in the NCAA tournament. Even if Archie Miller was to be hired here, he would face the same situation as CBG did in his first few years - growing pains, and learn from mistakes that we have already made so far in the CBG era.

My only knock on CBG is recruiting. If that improves in the next 1-2 years, I think we can keep and extend CBG.
 

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- GT played a weak schedule? Wow.

Not what I said. Said we played a weak schedule AFTER we started 2-8 in league play.

Since when do his teams play with heart? The last month? When the light at the end of the tunnel for 4 of our best players got more intense and the end was near? Over the last 5 years there are far more instances of many of us on the board saying the team came out flat, unprepared, played uninspired. Far more. It's ok. We will revisit this in 11 months when we have 9 wins and you can tell me what a great job he's doing because people are "trying really hard"

That counts for zero points.
 

natureboy

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Shout out to ramblingwreck1378,I agree 250 percent with you. Time for a change,and I mean quickly. Again,if Tech doesn't fix this problem this year, we're gonna fall behind 3 more years.
 

SecretAgentBuzz

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Change is certainly needed. But the timing also has to be right. Many of us thought that the time was right last year and it didn't happen.

The Brian Gregory case is such an odd one. He's a guy that you want to root for, a guy that the team seems to get behind, but he just hasn't had the results. He has been horribly unfortunate. I actually think his teams have, generally speaking, played better basketball than the teams in Hewitt's last few years. I don't think he is an amazing coach, but perhaps he is growing and learning. The real disappointment has been the lack of talent he has brought in. When we really needed to land top talent (like Jaylen Brown), he just hasn't been able to bring them in.

I am really on the fence. We all figured that this team would do pretty well. In my opinion, they have not over-achieved or under-achieved. But it looks bad to fire a guy after winning 20 games and having his best season at GT. So...I figure he has bought one more year, but the team will need to greatly over-achieve next year in order for him to stay (NCAA berth or he's out). That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it...unless someone convinces me otherwise.

Go jackets! Beat USC-E!
 

bke1984

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Two months ago I was in the camp to cut ties. We were a mess. The lineup change in Feb really changed our basketball team for the better and made it a lot of fun to watch. We were pretty close to making the tournament after an abysmal start, which is quite impressive.

Winning the NIT would be a nice accomplishment, so I think it's a little unfair to say that wouldn't count for anything.

I'm kind of on the fence here. Letting the guy go isn't going to make us any better or worse next year...we will probably be bad no matter what. At this point, why not just enjoy the minor success we had at the end of the season and wait until next year to move on. This way we save some of the buyout money.
 

sidewalkGTfan

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Winning the NIT would be a nice accomplishment, so I think it's a little unfair to say that wouldn't count for anything.

I'm kind of on the fence here. Letting the guy go isn't going to make us any better or worse next year...we will probably be bad no matter what. At this point, why not just enjoy the minor success we had at the end of the season and wait until next year to move on. This way we save some of the buyout money.
I disagree. I'd might feel differently if this team was younger and building for next year but it's not. This team was built to get in the real tourney this year.

MBob should already have his mind made up about what he's going to do about CBG when the season ends. Getting in or possibly winning the NIT, with this particular team, shouldn't be what moves the needle.
 
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