NCAA Ruling - Postseason Ban, Among Other Bogus Things...

[smokey_wasp]

Appealing. Josh still has tstans support per KQ

 

[Gold1]

I would fully support firing Tstan AND Pastner after this. Todd is weak

 

[Gtbowhunter90]

Is there gonna be a way we can watch the telecon?

 

[Kmag]

What’s sad is we really used to be something special. This sucks, I cannot for the life of me see how NCAA can be so harsh. While other programs literally have the FBI on their back. Is there legal action that can be taken here?

 

[ChasonBaller]

I can only assume this is about what was just released...I will continue to update with players perspectives as they are posted:
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[kg01]

I would fully support firing Tstan AND Pastner after this. Todd is weak

I'd caution folks who feel this way to acknowledge our present financial situation after the fball hire(s).

I'd imagine TStan's support is in light of (a) ability to fire with cause (or lack thereof), (b) timing of recent hires and (c) pending litigation (related to the wbb firing as well as potential litigation associated with a firing now).

 

[Gold1]

I'd caution folks who feel this way to acknowledge our present financial situation after the fball hire(s).

I'd imagine TStan's support is in light of (a) ability to fire with cause (or lack thereof), (b) timing of recent hires and (c) pending litigation (related to the wbb firing as well as potential litigation associated with a firing now).

Tstan right now looks really really bad in my eyes right now. He cant make a bold statement to save his life

 

[THWG16]

Appealing. Josh still has tstans support per KQ

Why would you support pastner now?

 

[CuseJacket]

Its Pastner's birthday. Good lord.

So you're saying the NCAA called Pastner on his birthday?

 

[kg01]

Tstan right now looks really really bad in my eyes right now. He cant make a bold statement to save his life

But you're totally ignoring what I posted. What bold statement can he make, realistically?

Now, if you're referring to making a statement against the NCAA, I'm with you 100%. At this point, what in the actual F do we have to lose by letting the NCAA know just where they can stick it?

STTE: "Look, we'll take our penalty because we're an NCAA member institution or whatever but .... you got schools literally being investigated by the FBI but you chose to hammer us? Really? I've seen the books, so I know how you make your money, NCAA. It's no coincidence that perennial tournament teams go unpunished ..."

What could they do to him if he said something like that? Public opinion would back him 1000%.

 

[MtnWasp]

I would fully support firing Tstan AND Pastner after this. Todd is weak

No, Todd is strong. Throwing your own people under a bus to satisfy an lynch mob is weak. Firing a good basketball coach while having no money to hire an upgrade to satisfy short term public opinion is weak. The Men's program has been undermined year after year by one boneheaded decision after another. Standing behind Pastner makes sense to me.

I usually have no particular loyalties to coaches one way or another. I'm a fan of a team and when the coaches win, I love 'em, and when they lose, I hate 'em.

But in the age of social media, fans have become even more irascible and fickle than normal. Everything is about ephemeral emotional states and punishing whomever for making them mad or low. It is ridiculous. Pastner has been surrounded by one bonehead after another and yet fans want his blood for it. In this climate, I don't mind coming out is support of a coach. I support Pastner and I defend him against having to take all the Ziggy for this mess.

 

[Kmag]

Why would you support pastner now?

Money is probably the biggest reason. Then I would guess it comes down to trying to keep a decent team together for the next guy. Do you guys remember the Gregory deal? Who would come here right now? We can’t keep hiring another terrible coach and think things will change.

 

[slugboy]

Appealing. Josh still has tstans support per KQ

There are basically two AD statuses for coaching support:

1. Coach has my full support, or
2. The search committee has been formed

None of them will go public with anything in between, unless it's a "vote of confidence"

ETA: Added "or" to make this less confusing

 

[smokey_wasp]

Why would you support pastner now?

Well if we are appealing, I guess we have to. Firing him would look like an admission of guilt, of sorts. As usual with basketball, we are left with only crappy options.

 

[BonafideJacket]

But you're totally ignoring what I posted. What bold statement can he make, realistically?

Now, if you're referring to making a statement against the NCAA, I'm with you 100%. At this point, what in the actual F do we have to lose by letting the NCAA know just where they can stick it?

STTE: "Look, we'll take our penalty because we're an NCAA member institution or whatever but .... you got schools literally being investigated by the FBI but you chose to hammer us? Really? I've seen the books, so I know how you make your money, NCAA. It's no coincidence that perennial tournament teams go unpunished ..."

What could they do to him if he said something like that? Public opinion would back him 1000%.

I like the idea, but would probably hold off until after the appeal.

 

[GCdaJuiceMan]

So you're saying the NCAA called Pastner on his birthday?

More calls than I got two weeks ago...

 

[Gold1]

No, Todd is strong. Throwing your own people under a bus to satisfy an lynch mob is weak. Firing a good basketball coach while having no money to hire an upgrade to satisfy short term public opinion is weak. The Men's program has been undermined year after year by one boneheaded decision after another. Standing behind Pastner makes sense to me.

I usually have no particular loyalties to coaches one way or another. I'm a fan of a team and when the coaches win, I love 'em, and when they lose, I hate 'em.

But in the age of social media, fans have become even more irascible and fickle than normal. Everything is about ephemeral emotional states and punishing whomever for making them mad or low. It is ridiculous. Pastner has been surrounded by one bonehead after another and yet fans want his blood for it. In this climate, I don't mind coming out is support of a coach. I support Pastner and I defend him against having to take all the Ziggy for this mess.

Lol pastner is not that great of a coach in the first place. Should be able to easily fire him with cause but this GT we are talking about. Incompetent people

 

[herb]

But you're totally ignoring what I posted. What bold statement can he make, realistically?

Now, if you're referring to making a statement against the NCAA, I'm with you 100%. At this point, what in the actual F do we have to lose by letting the NCAA know just where they can stick it?

STTE: "Look, we'll take our penalty because we're an NCAA member institution or whatever but .... you got schools literally being investigated by the FBI but you chose to hammer us? Really? I've seen the books, so I know how you make your money, NCAA. It's no coincidence that perennial tournament teams go unpunished ..."

What could they do to him if he said something like that? Public opinion would back him 1000%.

Kansas took a very different approach in their response, much more aggressive

 

[kg01]

Lol pastner is not that great of a coach in the first place. Should be able to easily fire him with cause but this GT we are talking about. Incompetent people

You're simply wrong here, man. It is very hard to fire any coach with cause.

Kansas took a very different approach in their response, much more aggressive

Indeed. Plus they're appealing too so why should we be scared to call the NCAA out?

 

[BonafideJacket]

Kansas took a very different approach in their response, much more aggressive

We tried a more aggressive approach back in 2009 and still got hammered. This time we're commended for cooperating... same result. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.