Mostly “Fire Geoff Collins”, some reminiscing, maybe bourbon or other distractions

[Boaty1]

Here's just one of them, cut and pasted directly from this thread just a few pages back:

"We were successful before Johnson and we will be successful once we get a few more years away from his offense."

It's been three years already, so add "a few more years" to that and we're just about to 7. Doesn't appear to be tongue-in-cheek, either.

You sincerely believe we should be over any impact of coming out of the 3O in year 3?

And by the way, hiring a guy like Collins was a result of coming out of the the option.

 

[Boaty1]

Great read on his offense as well.

Wake Forest's Confounding RPO System Has Demon Deacons Offense Rolling | Sports Illustrated

www.si.com

“I would say that what we do is very systematic like the triple option,” Ruggiero said. Yep let’s be like Wake Boaty!

I agree. Wake sounds great. Running that offense doesn’t repel recruits. Sensational. If Johnson would have been able to adapt his offense in a similar fashion we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.

You guys don’t care about the perception of that offense. I get it. Unfortunately recruits did. And our talent was severely lacking at the end of Johnson’s tenure here due to it. It was only due to the brilliance of Johnson as a coach that were remotely competitive his last 3 years.

 

[bobongo]

You sincerely believe we should be over any impact of coming out of the 3O in year 3?

And by the way, hiring a guy like Collins was a result of coming out of the the option.

So, just so I understand - you're not only saying it will take "a few more years" to transition, you're also blaming Paul for TStan hiring Collins?

This will be easier if you tell us what you don't blame Paul for.

 

[Eli]

I agree. Wake sounds great. Running that offense doesn’t repel recruits. Sensational. If Johnson would have been able to adapt his offense in a similar fashion we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.

You guys don’t care about the perception of that offense. I get it. Unfortunately recruits did. And our talent was severely lacking at the end of Johnson’s tenure here due to it. It was only due to the brilliance of Johnson as a coach that were remotely competitive his last 3 years.

Wake has the 69th ranked class lol

 

[takethepoints]

And by the way, hiring a guy like Collins was a result of coming out of the the option.

You think this is an argument for your point?

And, btw, when Paul took over in 2008, we went 9 - 4. Hiring the right coach makes a difference even when the personnel don't fit the offense.

 

[cthenrys]

I agree. Wake sounds great. Running that offense doesn’t repel recruits. Sensational. If Johnson would have been able to adapt his offense in a similar fashion we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.

You guys don’t care about the perception of that offense. I get it. Unfortunately recruits did. And our talent was severely lacking at the end of Johnson’s tenure here due to it. It was only due to the brilliance of Johnson as a coach that were remotely competitive his last 3 years.

Oh Ffs

 

[Backstreetbuzz]

You think this is an argument for your point?

And, btw, when Paul took over in 2008, we went 9 - 4. Hiring the right coach makes a difference even when the personnel don't fit the offense.

I could have gone 10-3 with that team.

 

[cthenrys]

I could have gone 10-3 with that team.

 

[Eli]

You think this is an argument for your point?

And, btw, when Paul took over in 2008, we went 9 - 4. Hiring the right coach makes a difference even when the personnel don't fit the offense.

That team only had 8 total returning starters from a team that went 7-6. Also had walk on Sean Bedford starting on the o line

 

[augustabuzz]

*better results is also not going 3-9 for 3 straight years.

Yes, I think it was only 2 years for Clawson, but then he didn't have a covid year in his first three years. The good news is that it took him only eight years to have a season like 2021.

 

[Eli]

Yes, I think it was only 2 years for Clawson, but then he didn't have a covid year in his first three years. The good news is that it took him only eight years to have a season like 2021.

Here’s the deal the COVID year holds no water. EVERY TEAM DEALT WITH COVID. In fact the ACC and SEC were the most laxed with their seasons. The PAC 12 and Big Ten didn’t even play half a season.

 

[augustabuzz]

Here’s the deal the COVID year holds no water. EVERY TEAM DEALT WITH COVID. In fact the ACC and SEC were the most laxed with their seasons. The PAC 12 and Big Ten didn’t even play half a season.

Yes, there's a reason no reasonable entity counts that as a real year.

 

[Backstreetbuzz]

That team only had 8 total returning starters from a team that went 7-6. Also had walk on Sean Bedford starting on the o line

Actually the 2008 team had Nesbitt, Dwyer, Jones, Thomas, Gardner, Morgan, Johnson, Richards, Walker, Burnett, and many other great players. I actually believe I could have gone 11-2 with that team.

The question is, why the hell did we let Gailey go?

 

[Eli]

Actually the 2008 team had Nesbitt, Dwyer, Jones, Thomas, Gardner, Morgan, Johnson, Richards, Walker, Burnett, and many other great players. I actually believe I could have gone 11-2 with that team.

The question is, why the hell did we let Gailey go?

Nesbit, Dwyer, jones, Morgan, Thomas and Burnett were all sophomores. None started as freshman. So please read again. Returning starters

 

[Eli]

Yes, there's a reason no reasonable entity counts that as a real year.

Yep Bama didn’t claim their title last year.

 

[augustabuzz]

Yep Bama didn’t claim their title last year.

I don't think Bama is a governing entity.

 

[Eli]

I don't think Bama is a governing entity.

But Tech is? You’re really talking in circles lol

 

[augustabuzz]

But Tech is? You’re really talking in circles lol

I never claimed Tech was such an entity.

 

[Eli]

I never claimed Tech was such an entity.

Then I’m not sure I understand what you are even talking about. Do you count Techs ACC basketball title? Or do we wipe that out due to it not being a real season?

 

[cthenrys]

Here’s the deal the COVID year holds no water. EVERY TEAM DEALT WITH COVID. In fact the ACC and SEC were the most laxed with their seasons. The PAC 12 and Big Ten didn’t even play half a season.

COViD is just a weak excuse. Everyone dealt with the same conditions Stop