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Clemson and Deshaun Watson are the media darlings to start the year.
Clemson and Deshaun Watson are the media darlings to start the year.
JT only received 13 votes for mvp out of 128 voters. Last year he had some motivational stuff scrawled on his wrist tape, probably some shoulder chip stuff. This year all he needs is the number 13.JeT should feel disrespected and have a MONSTER year carrying GT to the ACC Championship title. GT and JeT should have been voted #1 in all those polls, including winning the Atlantic division.![]()
Clemson is set up for a big fall. They could crash and burn hard. On the other hand, they reload talent so who knows.I just don't understand the love fest with Clemson. I must be missing something
They have a ton of talent all over the field and (when healthy) the single best player in the conference. They're a safe pick if you think FSU is going to be down a bit.I just don't understand the love fest with Clemson. I must be missing something
They have a ton of talent all over the field and (when healthy) the single best player in the conference. They're a safe pick if you think FSU is going to be down a bit.
They still have two big questions, though:
1) Can Watson stay healthy?
2) Can the new guys in the front 7 on D step up to fill the shoes of last year's group?
They have a ton of talent all over the field and (when healthy) the single best player in the conference. They're a safe pick if you think FSU is going to be down a bit.
They still have two big questions, though:
1) Can Watson stay healthy?
2) Can the new guys in the front 7 on D step up to fill the shoes of last year's group?
Justin was probably the most important player in the ACC, LAST season. It is just that the nature of what we do camoflages his impact a little. We ran, quite possibly, the most dominant offense in the last quarter century of CFB. There is no way that happens without JeT pulling the trigger. If you are lazy and all you do is look at stat sheets, then you will overlook a guy like JeT. There is no "assist" category in CFB that I am aware of (like CBB). Just like an amazing point guard who not only scores a lot himself, but dishes out assists in record numbers, JeT was the pulse and the producer.
I don't expect that kind of recognition for JeT and I don't care. You have to watch him every game to "get it". The talking heads aren't going to do that. Personally, I hope JeT uses other means for his personal motivation rather than a fawning or indifferent press corps.
I just don't understand the love fest with Clemson. I must be missing something
Here's the rub - Clemson has had ridiculous talent coming in over the years. No. 4 class for 2015 per Rivals, #13 in 2014, #14 in 2013, #14 in 2012, #8 in 2011. Not putting too much stock in recruiting rankings, but they've had a better class than us every single year. So its relatively easy to point to them and say they reload, rather than rebuild.
I've posted on other threads - Clemson is filling most of their vacant roster spots from last season with talented upper classmen. I'm by no means an expert on their roster, but they slide a Junior (Germone Hopper) into the single vacant WR position. They've got a Senior (Joe Gore, top 30 DE recruit) going into a vacant tackle position, and a Sophomore (Tyone Crowder, four star top 5/10 guard) and Senior (Eric Lain, four star top 10 TE) competing for their open guard slot (there may be more than one, not sure). Most of those guys we would be going crazy for coming in as freshmen, which those guys aren't.
Their new defensive linemen are basically Juniors (Carlos Watkins, four star top 10 DT, and Shaq Lawson, not a great recruit, but has proved his talent on the field) and Seniors (DJ Reader, three star top 20 G). Their new LBs are the same (Kellen Jones, Sr., top 10/15 MLB transfer from Oklahoma, and Ben Boulware, Jr, 4 star top 10-15 MLB). They return a lot of their talented secondary, minus TJ Green, who is a Junior (3 star, not a great recruit).
For better or for worse, we don't get those kinds of recruits. We've got Skov or Allen who will start at BB. I have no idea who will be our other AB to start the year besides Snoddy. Our WRs haven't done much, either.
I love the guys we have returning, but we have a lot of questions marks. Unlike Clemson, we don't have obvious answers at any of those vacant positions (and, its not like people don't like us, they picked us to win the division).
I just question whether they will be able to replace Morris with such ease.
Thats apples to oranges, Clemson lost their whole defense and most of their O-line, plus their o-coord. It's 100% based on Deshaun Watson hype.Clemson is set up for a big fall. They could crash and burn hard. On the other hand, they reload talent so who knows.
(The following observation is not directed at you, but has just come to mind so I'll put it here)
It's funny how some of the same guys who dismiss our personnel turnover in the offensive skill positions point to Clemson's losses as crippling.
Here's the rub - Clemson has had ridiculous talent coming in over the years. No. 4 class for 2015 per Rivals, #13 in 2014, #14 in 2013, #14 in 2012, #8 in 2011. Not putting too much stock in recruiting rankings, but they've had a better class than us every single year. So its relatively easy to point to them and say they reload, rather than rebuild.
I've posted on other threads - Clemson is filling most of their vacant roster spots from last season with talented upper classmen. I'm by no means an expert on their roster, but they slide a Junior (Germone Hopper) into the single vacant WR position. They've got a Senior (Joe Gore, top 30 DE recruit) going into a vacant tackle position, and a Sophomore (Tyone Crowder, four star top 5/10 guard) and Senior (Eric Lain, four star top 10 TE) competing for their open guard slot (there may be more than one, not sure). Most of those guys we would be going crazy for coming in as freshmen, which those guys aren't.
Their new defensive linemen are basically Juniors (Carlos Watkins, four star top 10 DT, and Shaq Lawson, not a great recruit, but has proved his talent on the field) and Seniors (DJ Reader, three star top 20 G). Their new LBs are the same (Kellen Jones, Sr., top 10/15 MLB transfer from Oklahoma, and Ben Boulware, Jr, 4 star top 10-15 MLB). They return a lot of their talented secondary, minus TJ Green, who is a Junior (3 star, not a great recruit).
For better or for worse, we don't get those kinds of recruits. We've got Skov or Allen who will start at BB. I have no idea who will be our other AB to start the year besides Snoddy. Our WRs haven't done much, either.
I love the guys we have returning, but we have a lot of questions marks. Unlike Clemson, we don't have obvious answers at any of those vacant positions (and, its not like people don't like us, they picked us to win the division).