Las Vegas Mass Casualty Attack

[Whiskey_Clear]

Simple. Did you take reasonable precautions to safely store your guns or did you just leave them on the table for the passing hillfolk to take them? Same way we differentiate between at fault drivers and not at fault drivers.

My preoccupation for hillbillies is obviously for hyperbolic purposes. Also because hillbillies are genuinely scary.

I can no longer take your statements as serious lines of thought.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

Most of them? I mean Sandy Hook the guns were stolen. Many times the guns are stolen. All the gang warfare is probably single gun. Virginia Tech was 2 handguns.

Yeah I guess most shootings are just single handgun shootings.

I don't have the exact numbers, but many more people are killed in Chicago on a monthly basis than people were killed at the Vegas shooting.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

I can no longer take your statements as serious lines of thought.

You don't seem capable of taking anything except what you already agree with seriously. Aristotle held that as a mark of an uneducated mind.

 

[Captain killem]

My definition of liberals.
1 if I don’t like something it doesn’t matter whether you do or not.
2 throw money at problems instead of solve them
3 socialism/ communism is good for everyone

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

You don't seem capable of taking anything except what you already agree with seriously. Aristotle held that as a mark of an uneducated mind.

You are simply trolling. To equate the victim of a burglary as a negligent contributor to a criminal's later actions is inane. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle you are not.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

My definition of liberals.
1 if I don’t like something it doesn’t matter whether you do or not.
2 throw money at problems instead of solve them
3 socialism/ communism is good for everyone

These are all straw men.

As to the points anyway:

1. Is it then true that if I like something, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not?

Also, likes/dislikes is kinda irrelevant to rights. There's plenty of things I don't like that people have rights to.

2. I don't want to throw money at any problem and haven't proposed that at any stage of this.

3. I'm not sure how to define those terms but I haven't advocated any of that according to what I believe are standard definitions.

In fact most of our issues stem from not having market solutions.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

You are simply trolling. To equate the victim of a burglary as a negligent contributor to a criminal's later actions is inane. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle you are not.

I'm not trolling. You know how many kids are shot by accessing improperly stored firearms each year? Even hillbilly children matter.

The criminal thing is not that big of a stretch. If I give my car keys to a visibly drunk person I can be held liable in part.

Sandy Hook lady shouldn't have let her guns be easily accessible to unstable son in the same way.

 

[Captain killem]

You are saying ban guns or restrict guns ie point 1
Make someone’s insurance pay for a crime after guns stolen ie point 2
Restricting people’s freedoms point 3

 

[Wrecking Ball]

You are saying ban guns or restrict guns ie point 1
Make someone’s insurance pay for a crime after guns stolen ie point 2
Restricting people’s freedoms point 3

1. Where did I propose a ban or restriction other than (1) mentally ill people shouldn't have guns, which I have been informed is already the case, and (2) if you're a hoarder you're probably nuts.

2. Insurance is a private market solution that's already required in plenty of situations. It's a user/consumer/market solution.

3. Restricting freedoms is communist? What the hell are stop signs? I knew it! Red, octagonal (such an unnatural shape!). KGB has been mind controlling us all these years!

 

[Wrecking Ball]

You are saying ban guns or restrict guns ie point 1
Make someone’s insurance pay for a crime after guns stolen ie point 2
Restricting people’s freedoms point 3

Also:

You are saying none of my rights matter as much as your preferences.

You are saying that I should have to pay for every crime regardless of my participation in the scheme (to wit, I own 3 firearms, so I'd pay in in my own world). Every time one of these events happens health care costs go up and I share in it.

You are 2/3 to the way of being a liberal.

I think the cure is that next time you come to a stop sign, rev up your freedom wagon and stick it to the man by roaring right on through that intersection while listening to Big and Rich.

 

[Captain killem]

So now you contradict yourself we should all break laws hmmm interesting. See gun laws are already there now if you don’t like them lobby your congressional leaders and good luck with that.

 

[Captain killem]

I have several guns some are collectors pieces and some are for hunting and some are for sport. Why does the United States have such a powerful military and nuclear aresenal? Serves as a deterrent correct. Same thing with guns. Police officers are armed why? As a deterrent. That’s my thoughts. Just like you have irresponsible automobile owners pet owners and atv owners you will have the same with gun owners.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Also:

You are saying none of my rights matter as much as your preferences.

You are saying that I should have to pay for every crime regardless of my participation in the scheme (to wit, I own 3 firearms, so I'd pay in in my own world). Every time one of these events happens health care costs go up and I share in it.

You are 2/3 to the way of being a liberal.

I think the cure is that next time you come to a stop sign, rev up your freedom wagon and stick it to the man by roaring right on through that intersection while listening to Big and Rich.

This is the dumbest thing I read on the internet today.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

This is the dumbest thing I read on the internet today.

He literally said any restriction on his freedoms is Communism.

Do you not have a sense of humor at all? You must be the life of the party.

His idea of freedom is hillfolk Patrick Henry freedom, where a stop sign is just a pesky burden on his rights and therefore Communism.

I tend to be a Burkean so I view them as *ordering* my freedom, but to each their own. I kinda feel better thinking about killem in his Freedom Wagon, sticking it to the man by showing those stop signs the price of restricting his freedom of movement.

 

[Captain killem]

Never said anything about stop signs and such there sigmund. So don’t assume. There’s an old saying about being an idiot and then opening your mouth and proving it.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

Never said anything about stop signs and such there sigmund. So don’t assume. There’s an old saying about being an idiot and then opening your mouth and proving it.

You said "restricting freedoms" is "Communist." You didn't qualify it in the slightest.

Movement is a freedom. Stop signs restrict movement. By your definition that is Communist.

Just drive the Freedom Wagon right on down McCarthy Road. I don't even care anymore.

 

[Captain killem]

See when you assume you make an *** out of you and me. Genius

 

[Captain killem]

Laws are already on the books. You disagree with people owning multiple firearms and label those that do as “hillbilly’s” and mentally ill. Thats your opinion and they are like a holes everybody has one. So state facts or just babble to meet your own agenda.

 

[Wrecking Ball]

Laws are already on the books. You disagree with people owning multiple firearms and label those that do as “hillbilly’s” and mentally ill. Thats your opinion and they are like a holes everybody has one. So state facts or just babble to meet your own agenda.

I own multiple firearms. What I think is odd is multiple *dozen* firearms.

Those people almost certainly have some mental illness.

You've also failed to state anything resembling a fact. Do you even self reflect, ever?

 

[Deleted member 2897]

He literally said any restriction on his freedoms is Communism.

Do you not have a sense of humor at all? You must be the life of the party.

His idea of freedom is hillfolk Patrick Henry freedom, where a stop sign is just a pesky burden on his rights and therefore Communism.

I tend to be a Burkean so I view them as *ordering* my freedom, but to each their own. I kinda feel better thinking about killem in his Freedom Wagon, sticking it to the man by showing those stop signs the price of restricting his freedom of movement.

Just your healthcare illustration alone ended it for me. Using healthcare costs as proof for why the government should have control over guns, etc. the government is what's wrong with our healthcare in the first place. I mean that whole post was just craziness. I screwed this up over here, so therefore you must also give me control of this over here too. Crimes are the victims fault for not effectively being able to stop the crime. My personal feeling on what is normal should dictate laws. This is just pure insanity - I have to move on.