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From what I’ve been reading a DL must make initial contact with a lineman next to the snapper. Shooting the gap? It’s kind of a gray area but a gap shooter can’t make initial contact with the snapper unless one second has passed.
 
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From the NCAA rule book:

Contact Against the Snapper
ARTICLE 14. When a team is in scrimmage kick formation, a defensive player
may not initiate contact with the snapper until one second has elapsed after the
snap (A.R. 9-1-14-I-III).
 
Buzzbomb

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We are trying to get another Kicker to Walk-On....

....forgive the editorial, the more the better!
 
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gtg391z said:
I would hope we go into spring with no scholarship kickers. All should be PWO until one emerges. We can use those scholarships in other areas.
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While I agree with the sentiment, if we made a four year scholarship offer, we should honor it. Guy doesn't have to even be on travel team. This is the downside of offering kickers scholarships that didn't work out. Competent kickers are so important to the overall game, I think the scholarship is more than worth it to get a bulovas or buttkicker.
 
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To challenge those anchored to the “4 year commitment” narrative - I’m fairly certain that academic scholarships are performance-based. Meaning, you have to hit certain grades and other milestones to maintain the scholarship. This idea that we blindly honor scholarships without factoring for performance is inconsistent with other merit-based collegiate scholarships.


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GTNavyNuke said:
While I agree with the sentiment, if we made a four year scholarship offer, we should honor it. Guy doesn't have to even be on travel team. This is the downside of offering kickers scholarships that didn't work out. Competent kickers are so important to the overall game, I think the scholarship is more than worth it to get a bulovas or buttkicker.
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I dont have a problem offering schollies to specialists if we have room and they are highly rated like Butker and Harvin. King was probably someone we could have gotten with a pwo to start with.
 

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gtstinger776 said:
To challenge those anchored to the “4 year commitment” narrative - I’m fairly certain that academic scholarships are performance-based. Meaning, you have to hit certain grades and other milestones to maintain the scholarship. This idea that we blindly honor scholarships without factoring for performance is inconsistent with other merit-based collegiate scholarships.


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Well, the athletes also need to be in "good" academic standing (a rather low bar, but the bar is there) to maintain their athletic scholarships, although there is room for exceptions. There might be something to that seeing how a portion (~10%?) of the athletic department is directly funded by the academic side (omitting the non-direct subsidies/benefits since that analysis gets murky), whereas I don't believe there's any monetary reciprocity (e.g. percentage of revenue from merchandise and ads). Regardless, last I saw of this conversation, somebody dug up the contract that showed the scholarship is year-by-year and therefore the 4 year commitment is only verbal.
 
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Cory Munson former Teammate of Tobias Oliver at Northside Warner Robins.....who practically begged Coach Andy Mac and CPJ for any type of offer just kicked a game winning 52yd FG today for WKU to win their Bowl game. He was named Player of the game... A true shame that the old staff did not even offer him a PWO (UGA did) The kid was snubbed by the old staff... Hopefully the new staff can find a SA K like him..
 

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jgtengineer said:
To be fair the old staff thought they had a kicker in wesley wells. While we would have been recruiting this kid.
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To be fair, the old staff DID have a kicker in Wesley Wells, a kicker who was perfect for his career under them. That's great for Corey to get to kick the game winner from 52 yards, but he only made 60% of his FGA on the year and missed a PAT too. Let's not build this kid into an all-american based on 1 kick and act like CPJ is an idiot for not taking him.
 
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yeti92 said:
To be fair, the old staff DID have a kicker in Wesley Wells, a kicker who was perfect for his career under them. That's great for Corey to get to kick the game winner from 52 yards, but he only made 60% of his FGA on the year and missed a PAT too. Let's not build this kid into an all-american based on 1 kick and act like CPJ is an idiot for not taking him.
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WHAT???? CPJ & staff let the kid go.... That is on them. But to say he is not a quality Kicker is crazy....Lets compare

Harrison Butker Freshman year:
XPA: 54 XPM: 53 for 98.1%
FGA:14 FGM:10 for 71%

Corey Munson Freshman year:
XPA: 40 XPM: 39 for 97.5%
FGA:28 FGM:17 for 60.7%

Lets look at his career Stats....

Harrsion Butker Career Stats at Tech
XPA: 210 XPM:208 for 99%
FGA: 60 FGM: 43 for 71%

Cory Munson wanted to be at Tech, the old staff did not want him even as a PWO.... It is what it is... But he looks more like Harrison Butker then the guys currently on the team and that is not Geoff Collins or Cory Munson's fault....
 

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yeti92 said:
To be fair, the old staff DID have a kicker in Wesley Wells, a kicker who was perfect for his career under them. That's great for Corey to get to kick the game winner from 52 yards, but he only made 60% of his FGA on the year and missed a PAT too. Let's not build this kid into an all-american based on 1 kick and act like CPJ is an idiot for not taking him.
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WHAT???? CPJ & staff let the kid go.... That is on them. But to say he is not a quality Kicker is crazy....Lets compare

Harrison Butker Freshman year:
XPA: 54 XPM: 53 for 98.1%
FGA:14 FGM:10 for 71%

Corey Munson Freshman year:
XPA: 40 XPM: 39 for 97.5%
FGA:28 FGM:17 for 60.7%

Lets look at his career Stats....

Harrsion Butker Career Stats at Tech
XPA: 210 XPM:208 for 99%
FGA: 60 FGM: 43 for 71%

Cory Munson wanted to be at Tech, the old staff did not want him even as a PWO.... It is what it is... But he looks more like Harrison Butker then the guys currently on the team and that is not Geoff Collins or Cory Munson's fault....
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Well, based on my understanding of the word "perfect" in @yeti92's post that you replied to, Wells achieved 100% for both XP and FG in his first (freshman?) year, and look at his performance (or lack of performance) this current (past?) season...
 
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I can't speak about this season and Coach Collins determination of who was the Place Kicker.... You are correct that Wes Wells was a 100% in 2018 and had a career long from 48 yards to & 40 yds in OT to beat UVA in 2018... By this time C. Munson was already committed to WKU as he was told NO by GT staff in the summer... you can look up old forums to see what month he was told no as I announced...

What is interesting is while in 2018 the old staff seemed GTG with Wells something has happened in 2019..... Either way it appears Georgia Tech non interest was WKU's gain.
 
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