Jimmies and Joe's and Mike Sewak

iceeater1969

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If 2015 per coach "fixed" we should not be humuliated in game 4.

After miami, vt, duke, unc I fear we will hear of another r structural problem.

While our offense is better those teams sure can pass and score quickly. . Once we get so far behind we have trouble catching up against the good teams.

I watched baylor go from door mat to new stadium by first passing then running. Duke, vt, Syracuse and unc are passing. THIS IS FACILITAED BY THE RULES ALLOWING HOLDING.
 

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I came in town for the game on Thursday night and the O line looked bad. Not sure whether Shamire should be starting. They had the one good drive in the second half mostly running the dive. Take away the fact that Watson was off on his throws most of the night and a couple of the pass interference calls were in our favor and the score would have been a lot worse. It always seems that our players don't have the proper cleating in our games, which makes no sense.
 

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And the 4 returning starters last year? Should CPJ be given, what, 15 years to get his players in here? Our guys match up physically just fine.

The season is nowhere near over, but 9 years is plenty of time to get your system installed.

There is still the constant of Sewak / Johnson and they way they want our kids to block is disgusting .

Course, I guess it would help if we did not always wear the wrong cleats as well.

Serious question: What is your practical expectation for our program? That is, when would you be satisfied with our coach's job performance?
 

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Passing.........that really shows Paul's shortcomings. Fing jail break when the ball is snapped. Going on 9 years and we are worst than in year ONE.
You have to have perspective when you say jail break. Our pass pro has been worlds better this year in our first two games. When we go against teams with equal or even slightly better talent, we hold our own. When we go against D's with much greater talent, not so much.

Also, don't forget that it was our passing game that saved our bacon several times in the BC game. It was our passing game that scored an 80 yrd td vs Vandy.

Look, I know we looked like crap against Clemson. But I'm not gonna write off the season, the coaches and the players because of one game that happens to be the 3rd game of the season. I also know we're coming off a crap year. If we have two crap years in a row, and we won't know that until the END of this one, I'll be more inclined to agree with you.
 

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And the 4 returning starters last year? Should CPJ be given, what, 15 years to get his players in here? Our guys match up physically just fine.

The season is nowhere near over, but 9 years is plenty of time to get your system installed.

There is still the constant of Sewak / Johnson and they way they want our kids to block is disgusting .

Course, I guess it would help if we did not always wear the wrong cleats as well.
I didn't know those guys were here for 15 yrs. Thanks for informing me.

Snark off.

The 15 yr argument never resonates with me because it's a 5 yr matriculation process. This ain't the NFL.
 

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Perhaps everyone should hold the "fire everyone and start over" comments until the end of the season...Thursday was terrible, but maybe throwing these out there after losing to a top-5 team is a little premature? The talent differential in that game was huge...even if we played with more fire and effort on offense, we would have had to play perfect to win.

If we go 3-9 or 4-8 again I might join the mob, but for now let's just calm down and see how the season pans out.
 

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Perhaps everyone should hold the "fire everyone and start over" comments until the end of the season...Thursday was terrible, but maybe throwing these out there after losing to a top-5 team is a little premature? The talent differential in that game was huge...even if we played with more fire and effort on offense, we would have had to play perfect to win.

If we go 3-9 or 4-8 again I might join the mob, but for now let's just calm down and see how the season pans out.

You expect the haters to hold their venom? Hell they're relishing in it right now as it validates their hatred of all things associated with CPJ. They sound like that moron Chernoff on the 680, he got his fees fees hurt by Paul 7 or 8 years ago and refuses to get over it.
 

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I know PJ wants to win, and I support him 100%. But he needs to be asked some serious X's and O's questions that nobody seems to be asking him. Why is an A-back tasked with blocking a DE when he is CLEARLY out-matched? You can't just say "Well that's his assignment on that particular play, and he needs to win that individual battle".

Sorry for the negativity, but I just watched the entire 1st qtr in Slow-Mo so I'm not in the best mood.
 

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I know PJ wants to win, and I support him 100%. But he needs to be asked some serious X's and O's questions that nobody seems to be asking him. Why is an A-back tasked with blocking a DE when he is CLEARLY out-matched? You can't just say "Well that's his assignment on that particular play, and he needs to win that individual battle".

Sorry for the negativity, but I just watched the entire 1st qtr in Slow-Mo so I'm not in the best mood.

I deleted it.
I will watch last years Clemson beat down then delete.

We are beter than the way we played.
 

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On either side of the ball, it's not only abut the jimmies and joes, but actually executing...
Check out his thread for evidence as to what our jimmies and joes are capable of - link kudos to @Longestday
 

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I know PJ wants to win, and I support him 100%. But he needs to be asked some serious X's and O's questions that nobody seems to be asking him. Why is an A-back tasked with blocking a DE when he is CLEARLY out-matched? You can't just say "Well that's his assignment on that particular play, and he needs to win that individual battle".

Sorry for the negativity, but I just watched the entire 1st qtr in Slow-Mo so I'm not in the best mood.

I agree with you. There is potential schematic arrogance here. Like maybe a 170lb Aback may not be capable of blocking a 230lb LB consistently or a 270lb DE. Particularly fast athletic DE's & LB's, or letting some defenses free on the line may have his drawbacks if they are faster, bigger, and stronger than the guard or back assigned to block them. It's a good question to ask. @Ibeeballin am I off here?
 

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We also need a passing game that can force a defense to divert resources and take pressure off the OL. It's a lot harder to block 8 guys with your OL than it is 7 or 6 or 5.
Well, nine years into it and with some rare exceptions -- all the more enjoyable for their paucity I suppose -- we have not been able to count on throwing the football. I don't mean we have never done it, Virginia Tech in 2014 certainly springs to mind, but that we cannot pull it off the shelf on demand. Every year we think this might be the recruit who can do that, but then he can't. In this particular version Thomas's stature doesn't help in finding a receiver in the downfield scrum. (I am not going to open that 5-11 argument again, he just isn't). Yet with all that I still think the issue is offensive line play and blocking at the edge. If we resolved those issues it would force them to play 8-9 up and by definition open up for passing. I'm not quire ready to toss in the towel on an offense that has routinely notched 350 to 400 yards rushing a game. But I don't think a new AD is going to adopt the get-'em-next-year position. That was last year's hole card. I doubt Johnson is unaware.
 

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And the 4 returning starters last year? Should CPJ be given, what, 15 years to get his players in here? Our guys match up physically just fine.

The season is nowhere near over, but 9 years is plenty of time to get your system installed.

There is still the constant of Sewak / Johnson and they way they want our kids to block is disgusting .

Course, I guess it would help if we did not always wear the wrong cleats as well.
 

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And the 4 returning starters last year? Should CPJ be given, what, 15 years to get his players in here? Our guys match up physically just fine.

The season is nowhere near over, but 9 years is plenty of time to get your system installed.

There is still the constant of Sewak / Johnson and they way they want our kids to block is disgusting .

Course, I guess it would help if we did not always wear the wrong cleats as well.
Okay, I get it. You are unhappy. You may even be right, though defining "just fine" in matching up against, say, Clemson, is kind of odd to me but that could be an arguable point. I know Clemson didn't believe that coming in. But "disgusting"? If you find a blocking style "disgusting", how do you feel when reading of something really loathesome? You might be irritated, irked, ticked off, angry, disappointed, agitated, frustrated or even puzzled. But if a cut block "disgusts" you, maybe you need to work on your gag reflex. The limits of the discussion ought to be kept within the boundaries.
 

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There is still the constant of Sewak / Johnson and they way they want our kids to block is disgusting .

Course, I guess it would help if we did not always wear the wrong cleats as well.

Specifics please. What about the blocking scheme do you find disgusting? What specific changes would you call for?
 

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I agree with you. There is potential schematic arrogance here. Like maybe a 170lb Aback may not be capable of blocking a 230lb LB consistently or a 270lb DE. Particularly fast athletic DE's & LB's, or letting some defenses free on the line may have his drawbacks if they are faster, bigger, and stronger than the guard or back assigned to block them. It's a good question to ask. @Ibeeballin am I off here?
90% of the blocks our Abacks make are against defensive backs.
 

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Specifics please. What about the blocking scheme do you find disgusting? What specific changes would you call for?

After watching the game against Clemson last week, and thinking back to the last two times we faced their D...having the OL cutblock against an athletic D has been "figured out". They are coached to avoid initial contact/shed the block well enough to remain in the play, while our guys hit the ground and take themselves out of the play. I saw a Clem lineman hurdle our diving lineman...its that easy. I would expect other DCs to start coaching the same in prep for facing us. The film is out there. Expect to see Miami and VT play us the same way.
 

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After watching the game against Clemson last week, and thinking back to the last two times we faced their D...having the OL cutblock against an athletic D has been "figured out". They are coached to avoid initial contact/shed the block well enough to remain in the play, while our guys hit the ground and take themselves out of the play. I saw a Clem lineman hurdle our diving lineman...its that easy. I would expect other DCs to start coaching the same in prep for facing us. The film is out there. Expect to see Miami and VT play us the same way.
We don't cut every single play. If we bull rush block on a play they're expecting a cut, we pancake them. We just need to mix it up more.
 
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