Ga Tech at UVA - 730PM

[ncjacket79]

The final score was … 48 - 0. Maybe the better term would have been "curb stomping".

And that changes what?

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

And that changes what?

the terminology used.

 

[stinger 1957]

Does Keion White make his GT debut against the Cavs, a team he had success against in the past?

 

[bobbie_downtown]

We aren't that explosive--we're just not really all that efficient, either. Here's Duke v GT:

Explosiveness	GT	Duke
Total Plays	77	106
Scrimmage Plays	64	91
Explosive Plays	4 (6%)	4 (4%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	4 (15%)	4 (13%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	0 (0%)	0 (0%)

That's 4 pass plays (and I bet you remember them). 77 yards to Gibbs, 36 yards to Sanders, 39 to Carter, 18 yard TD to McGowan.

GT-UNC was more that way, but on the ground (and a lot of that was Sims)

Explosiveness	UNC	GT
Total Plays	88	73
Scrimmage Plays	74	62
Explosive Plays	6 (8%)	7 (11%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	3 (6%)	2 (10%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	3 (11%)	5 (12%)

Pitt-GT looks like GT-Duke. Pitt is just very efficient, and we're very not efficient

Explosiveness	Pitt	GT
Total Plays	85	75
Scrimmage Plays	76	61
Explosive Plays	4 (5%)	4 (7%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	3 (8%)	4 (12%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	1 (2%)	0 (0%)

And our F+ (FEI merged with SP+). We're more explosive than we are efficient, but mainly we're just not efficient.

Team	Rec	F+	OF+	Rk	DF+	Rk	FEI	Rk	SP+	Rk
Georgia Tech	7-Mar	-0.44	-0.42	86	-0.15	73	-0.43	101	-0.5	75

18 yd TD is not explosive play.

He had two passes of 36 yards to sanders on last drive.

 

[slugboy]

18 yd TD is not explosive play.

He had two passes of 36 yards to sanders on last drive.

It's the two Carter plays (Gibbs, Sanders, Carter, Carter). McGowan is 5th in EPA.

Time	Offense	Play Description	EPA	WP%	WPA
Q1 12:23	Ga Tech	(3rd & 5 at GT 23) Jeff Sims pass complete to Jahmyr Gibbs for 77 yds for a TD, (Brent Cimaglia KICK) - GT 7, DUKE 0	7.41​	64.50%​	17.30%​
Q4 0:51	Ga Tech	(3rd & 6 at DUKE 36) Jeff Sims pass complete to Adonicas Sanders for 36 yds for a TD DUKE Penalty, Defensive Pass Interference ( Yards) declined, (Brent Cimaglia KICK) - GT 31, DUKE 27	5.07​	18.20%​	65.90%​
Q3 9:10	Ga Tech	(3rd & 9 at GT 43) Jeff Sims pass complete to Malachi Carter for 39 yds to the Duke 18 for a 1ST down - GT 17, DUKE 17	4.09​	62.10%​	11.20%​
Q1 10:21	Ga Tech	(3rd & 6 at DUKE 41) Jeff Sims pass complete to Malachi Carter for 39 yds to the Duke 2 for a 1ST down DUKE Penalty, Defensive Offside ( Yards) declined for a 1ST down - GT 7, DUKE 0	3.54​	84.70%​	3.20%​
Q3 6:30	Ga Tech	(1st & 10 at DUKE 18) Jeff Sims pass complete to Kyric McGowan for 18 yds for a TD, (Brent Cimaglia KICK) - GT 24, DUKE 17	2.13​	72.50%​	11.30%​

 

[RamblinRed]

We aren't that explosive--we're just not really all that efficient, either. Here's Duke v GT:

Explosiveness	GT	Duke
Total Plays	77	106
Scrimmage Plays	64	91
Explosive Plays	4 (6%)	4 (4%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	4 (15%)	4 (13%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	0 (0%)	0 (0%)

That's 4 pass plays (and I bet you remember them). 77 yards to Gibbs, 36 yards to Sanders, 39 to Carter, 18 yard TD to McGowan.

GT-UNC was more that way, but on the ground (and a lot of that was Sims)

Explosiveness	UNC	GT
Total Plays	88	73
Scrimmage Plays	74	62
Explosive Plays	6 (8%)	7 (11%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	3 (6%)	2 (10%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	3 (11%)	5 (12%)

Pitt-GT looks like GT-Duke. Pitt is just very efficient, and we're very not efficient

Explosiveness	Pitt	GT
Total Plays	85	75
Scrimmage Plays	76	61
Explosive Plays	4 (5%)	4 (7%)
When Passing (EPA > 2.4)	3 (8%)	4 (12%)
When Rushing (EPA > 1.8)	1 (2%)	0 (0%)

And our F+ (FEI merged with SP+). We're more explosive than we are efficient, but mainly we're just not efficient.

Team	Rec	F+	OF+	Rk	DF+	Rk	FEI	Rk	SP+	Rk
Georgia Tech	7-Mar	-0.44	-0.42	86	-0.15	73	-0.43	101	-0.5	75

We are definitely not efficient. What is the F+ for UVA if you have it?

 

[slugboy]

We are definitely not efficient. What is the F+ for UVA if you have it?

I'm glad you asked--I accidentally grabbed 2020 instead of 2021. Here's the correct info for this year, with UVA. We're a good bit better than last year.
UVA has a really good #13 offense, and a weaker defense than us.

I grabbed UNC as a common opponent. (I could have grabbed Duke, but UNC seems more interesting, and is ranked above both UVA and GT)

Maybe we do end up trading some scores. They'll be favored, but if we can mind our knitting

Rank	Team	Rec	F+	OF+	Rk	DF+	Rk	FEI	Rk	SP+	Rk
30​	North Carolina	4-3	.72	1.33	10	-.08	70	.23	46	14.6	17
38​	Virginia	4-2	0.61	1.2	13	-0.2	79	0.25	44	11.2	31
67​	Georgia Tech	2-3	0.1	0.04	67	0.11	60	-0.1	81	7	51

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Agree. Baseball has very little action but lots of drama made better by the announcers who are vey much into history and the the culture of baseball. I prefer watching football with no sound, especially if Demetra is commentating.

Cycling is far better to 1) do or 2) watch on TV where commentators are more like baseball than ever try to watch in person.

I think we win if we get one more turnover than UVa. Last week I thought we could beat inferior Duke with one less turnover. Once again, coaching turnovers are in my count where we run a stupid play on 4th on mid range on our side of the field. I still haven't gotten over the Pitt 4th down call on 4th and 3 on about the 45. Run up the middle with a new QB with a play that hasn't worked much in the game.

This is probably true but Louisville got multiple turnovers, ran the ball like crazy and still lost. Of course, letting Armstrong complete 40 of 60 passes and giving up 21 points in the 4th quarter while blowing a 17 point lead will tend to do that.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

First of all, we should be in no position to overlook anyone. I would expect Uva to win this game due to the factors you mention plus the problems we have had up there over time. The biggest reason for hope rests on the fact that Uva is an ACC Coastal team as is Georgia Tech. So anything can happen on any given Saturday.

Yep. In the Coastal just about anything can happen. Sometimes, though not often, you just might see some pretty decent defense being played too.

 

[wesgt123]

Does Keion White make his GT debut against the Cavs, a team he had success against in the past?

At this point I’m not expecting him any games lol if he does I’ll just be pleasantly surprised. I’m not sure how much he’s played/contributed but he’s been awol this season. I had high hopes

 

[wesgt123]

Yep. In the Coastal just about anything can happen. Sometimes, though not often, you just might see some pretty decent defense being played too.

I’d love for our defense to have a great game again. They gotta figure out how to adjust mid game and get some pressure on the qb pleaseee

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

1	Brennan Armstrong	7	210	329	63.8	2824	8.6	8.9	19	6	151.3

Just to let these stats sit in on how good of a passer this dude is.

Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	Pass	Rush	Pen	Tot	No.	Yds	Fum	Int	Tot
Offense	7	30.3	48.4	62.5	405.9	2.7	29.6	119.9	4.1	1.7	78.0	525.7	6.7	18.7	6.0	2.3	27.0	7.0	60.3	0.6	0.9	1.4
Defense	7	17.9	30.6	58.4	225.0	1.6	37.9	188.1	5.0	1.4	68.4	413.1	6.0	9.4	8.7	2.7	20.9	6.7	62.9	0.6	0.6	1.1
Difference		+12.4	+17.8	+4.1	+180.9	+1.1	-8.3	-68.2	-0.9	+0.3	+9.6	+112.6	+0.7	+9.3	-2.7	-0.4	+6.1	+0.3	-2.6	0.0	+0.3	+0.3

Another set of stats to not overlook.. While they are better than average on offense, they are also better than average on defense.

UVA is probably one of the more sound teams we've face, so far, this year. Given, we have ND and Ugag later... which both are better than UVA....

I cannot say that I am overly eager for this weekend's game.
Our stats aren't as impressive. While I think we match up with them defensively... We do not come close to them on offense.

Why am I seeing so many people thinking we can win this one? Am I missing something??? Just curious if it's me missing something.

Good question. My optimism, if it can be called that, is based primarily upon the fact that UVA is the most one dimensional team we will face. It is pass, pass, and pass some more. My experience is that the teams that run it down our throats and hit us with big play action passes are the ones that we cannot handle. I am also hopeful that Armstrong, for all his stats, and vaunted arm strength is apt to throw the ball right into traffic, such is his confidence in both his accuracy and his receivers. You may have read "I Love the Option" who is a UVA fan of sorts, comment that he is very fortunate not to have a lot more interceptions than he does. The only other thing I can think of is that with all those passes, he just might have his arm fall off in the middle of the game. Well, there is the reality that Gibbs is a matchup nightmare waiting to happen for a 3 man front team like UVA that has average, at best, team speed on defense. UVA is a pretty good team but that is by Coastal standards which is faint and damning praise at once. Consider also, that Louisville took a 17 point lead going into the 4th quarter basically running the same play over and over. Miami, being Miami, likewise should have won as well.

 

[Ibeeballin]

UVA stuffed Durant pretty good, I am worried that running is going to be pretty tough against them. If Sims can bust them on a few big ones that will def help open it all up, that is a key to our success imo

1	Brennan Armstrong	7	210	329	63.8	2824	8.6	8.9	19	6	151.3

Just to let these stats sit in on how good of a passer this dude is.

Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	Pass	Rush	Pen	Tot	No.	Yds	Fum	Int	Tot
Offense	7	30.3	48.4	62.5	405.9	2.7	29.6	119.9	4.1	1.7	78.0	525.7	6.7	18.7	6.0	2.3	27.0	7.0	60.3	0.6	0.9	1.4
Defense	7	17.9	30.6	58.4	225.0	1.6	37.9	188.1	5.0	1.4	68.4	413.1	6.0	9.4	8.7	2.7	20.9	6.7	62.9	0.6	0.6	1.1
Difference		+12.4	+17.8	+4.1	+180.9	+1.1	-8.3	-68.2	-0.9	+0.3	+9.6	+112.6	+0.7	+9.3	-2.7	-0.4	+6.1	+0.3	-2.6	0.0	+0.3	+0.3

Another set of stats to not overlook.. While they are better than average on offense, they are also better than average on defense.

UVA is probably one of the more sound teams we've face, so far, this year. Given, we have ND and Ugag later... which both are better than UVA....

I cannot say that I am overly eager for this weekend's game.
Our stats aren't as impressive. While I think we match up with them defensively... We do not come close to them on offense.

Why am I seeing so many people thinking we can win this one? Am I missing something??? Just curious if it's me missing something.

Bc you are simply box score watching instead of watching the games

 

[FlatsLander]

UVA stuffed Durant pretty good, I am worried that running is going to be pretty tough against them. If Sims can bust them on a few big ones that will def help open it all up, that is a key to our success imo

Durant ran 82 yards on 17 carries for 4.8 YPC against UVA. Against us, he had 152 yards on 43 carries for 3.5 YPC. His long against us was 11 yards, 24 against UVA. If UVA stuffed him, then we buried him.
That aside, I do think we will struggle to get any traditional rushing yards (pure handoff, OL blocking). We have been very bad in that area. Hopefully, they identified a few things to try and help that, and with a week of rest we might get a few guys back/playing better. If we can get the RBs to grab some attention, then at will definitely open up Sims for some rushing yards.

 

[AugustaSwarm]

If you live in the Atlanta market, you would not have been able to watch the Duke game with this setup. I believe the only way to watch Bally is thru direct tv / att app

Use expressVPN or some other vpn - change your location to San Francisco (or some other market) and you'll get the blackout games. I think it's about $100/year or so.

 

[slugboy]

Bc you are simply box score watching instead of watching the games

Watching the condensed game:

• It's funnier to watch it at 1.5 speed or faster
• Playing Yakety Sax at the same time is a good idea
• UVA did not play a good game, but Duke was a lot worse.
• I wish we'd played this Duke instead of the team we played two weeks ago. This is comically awful.
• Duke's receivers spent a fair fraction of the game allergic to the ball. So did their DBs.
• I've rarely seen an INT go into someone's chest, then 15 feet arcing in the air for a reception, but I think I saw it twice in this game
• UVA tried to fumble the ball about a dozen times in this game. I didn't count, but it was a lot.
• Aside from the occasional "I'm going to run into that big pile of people for no reason", Duke's Durant was getting yards and could have gotten some big plays. The main thing stopping Durant was Durant.
• Duke got into UVA's backfield and should have had a number of sacks.
• UVA's OL and defense, well, meh. Maybe we don't live in their backfield, but a DC should see opportunities on this game film
• UVA's Armstrong has this weird sidearm delivery. How he's not picked more often is kind of surprising.
• There were some basketball skyhook passes that got completed.
• Duke could not tackle and their defense was dragged for yards
• There were a couple of really cool plays that UVA ran
• I think a lineman stepped on Duke QB's foot on their final fumble

 

[UgaBlows]

Durant ran 82 yards on 17 carries for 4.8 YPC against UVA. Against us, he had 152 yards on 43 carries for 3.5 YPC. His long against us was 11 yards, 24 against UVA. If UVA stuffed him, then we buried him.
That aside, I do think we will struggle to get any traditional rushing yards (pure handoff, OL blocking). We have been very bad in that area. Hopefully, they identified a few things to try and help that, and with a week of rest we might get a few guys back/playing better. If we can get the RBs to grab some attention, then at will definitely open up Sims for some rushing yards.

Wow thanks! good to know that we handles him better

 

[Buzzbomb]

Georgia Tech’s Dylan Deveney out for season after surgery

Georgia Tech will be without tight end Dylan Deveney for the remainder of the season after he underwent season-ending surgery, coach Geoff Collins said Tuesday.

www.ajc.com

 

[stinger 1957]

At this point I’m not expecting him any games lol if he does I’ll just be pleasantly surprised. I’m not sure how much he’s played/contributed but he’s been awol this season. I had high hopes

He's been injured since before August practice started, he was limping badly when I saw him at practice number 2, but last week for the Duke game he was listed atl, that is what triggered my asking the question. I'm not sure he played in the Duke game, didn't see him listed as having played, but he was above the line for the game. For those not knowing who we're talking about, Keion White. Looking forward to seeing if he's listed atl for Cavs game.

 

[jgtengineer]

Wow thanks! good to know that we handles him better

Yeah cutcliffe ran durrant into the ground against us.