ESPN ACC preseason power rankings: Can anyone catch Clemson?

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Dude, I don't think we're going to have a bad season. I think we're going to go 8-4 or 9-3. I just don't know why anyone thinks what they're saying is all that unreasonable. Maybe they watched us play at Duke last year...that alone would make me think we're capable of anything terrible.
I strongly agree with you GT will make the "experts" look stupid by winning 8-10 games this season(y)
 

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If they had seen the Duke game, then they'd know that the DC who allowed 43 pts from a team that averaged 26 is gone. They'd also know that few offenses can be successful when forced to be one-dimensional passing to try and catch up, especially a run first offense.
We threw 13 passes...14 if you count the PHIII fake punt. 4 in the first half. So 9 passes in the second half is one-dimensional? ...ok

Pinning that game on the defense alone is silly. The defense was terrible, but that's one of the worst all-around games I've seen us play under Johnson. We looked like we didn't even want to be playing in the second half.
 

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11th is pretty low, but it's not like we gave them any reason to pick us higher. Our offense didn't look very good last year and now we're installing a new defense.

I always hate this argument. Yeah, we didn’t give them any reason to pick us higher (except returning starters across the entire OL & skill positions, including the top 2 returning rushers in the conference), but the same can be said for literally every team that finished behind us last year.
 

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College Sports Madness said Duke has talented players at the skill positions who can do big things and if they do they will challenge for the ACC Coastal Championship:wideyed::rolleyes:

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16407
Mike now you are ruining my day!

The qb at duke is 6 5 and has 2 years experience . If he has quality receivers , our first year aggressive d needs to be well disguised.

The joy of blowing out Duke while not heavenly would be awesome.
 

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Dude, I don't think we're going to have a bad season. I think we're going to go 8-4 or 9-3. I just don't know why anyone thinks what they're saying is all that unreasonable. Maybe they watched us play at Duke last year...that alone would make me think we're capable of anything terrible.

Because what they’re predicting literally never happens with us. Like I said, we’re twice as likely to win the ACC as we are to finish 11th. And if they had predicted us to win the ACC I’d also say they were delusional.
 

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We threw 13 passes...14 if you count the PHIII fake punt. 4 in the first half. So 9 passes in the second half is one-dimensional? ...ok

Pinning that game on the defense alone is silly. The defense was terrible, but that's one of the worst all-around games I've seen us play under Johnson. We looked like we didn't even want to be playing in the second half.

First of all, I didn't pin the loss on Defense only. I explicitly mentioned failure on O. In fact, you begin by trying to refute my reasons for the failure on O.

So, let's turn to your response.

Based on your response, it is your opinion that passing plays are only those which result in a pass being thrown?

Your view is that an observer cannot tell from watching sacks and scrambles that a passing play was called?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there weren't drives that stalled because we either didn't execute our base offense well or just got beat on some plays.

I'm asking you to explain the logic of citing passes-thrown against the assertion we ran more passing plays as their lead grew.
 

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Miami is gonna mirror UGA under Richt: Ultra talented team that's going to hover around 9-11 wins, poop the bed in big games, and not play up to their recruiting rankings. Once or twice every four years they will be highly ranked and their fans will slobber all over each other about their preseason ranking thinking it actually means something...then they will have to actually play games.

Atleast in Miami Richt doesn't have to deal with such strict drug testing rules, so he might not lose as many players....ahem...
 

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First of all, I didn't pin the loss on Defense only. I explicitly mentioned failure on O. In fact, you begin by trying to refute my reasons for the failure on O.

So, let's turn to your response.

Based on your response, it is your opinion that passing plays are only those which result in a pass being thrown?

Your view is that an observer cannot tell from watching sacks and scrambles that a passing play was called?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there weren't drives that stalled because we either didn't execute our base offense well or just got beat on some plays.

I'm asking you to explain the logic of citing passes-thrown against the assertion we ran more passing plays as their lead grew.
Can u guys discuss the stat that of our last 9 "chunkit" completions we caught 5 and they caught 4?

Imo most quarter backs are tall because the ol can engage the rusher at the line and retreat to a "pocket" . A 5-9/10" qb can't see over the shoulder pads in a tight pocket. Some times with the extra time gained by forming a pocket a taller quarterback can scan the field as "receivers make a second move."

Watching every offensive play gt verses duke - u will see our pass blocking is mostly at the line of scrimmage with the q b deep behind the line( So he can see down field). The qb has been looking at the receiver since he came out of his motion (which late in the game fooled no one) and he is going to chunk it when that set guy breaks open. Late in the game the intentional over throw is a pic.

Our 5 9/10 qb started year at approx 50% completion rate in first few games. His end games were at approx 25% for a season avg of 38%

We run a low level high school passing attack. Imo that should be fine if the option is working as we will be close and getting stronger as game progresses.

Coach was as surprised as any of us that the qb didn't finish better. This year lets hope we get rolling and our qb throws looks more like passes than "chunk its".
 

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Miami is gonna mirror UGA under Richt: Ultra talented team that's going to hover around 9-11 wins, poop the bed in big games, and not play up to their recruiting rankings. Once or twice every four years they will be highly ranked and their fans will slobber all over each other about their preseason ranking thinking it actually means something...then they will have to actually play games.

Atleast in Miami Richt doesn't have to deal with such strict drug testing rules, so he might not lose as many players....ahem...

If that's the case we're in big trouble. I think he beat us 9 out of 11 or something with his UGA teams.
 
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If they had seen the Duke game, then they'd know that the DC who allowed 43 pts from a team that averaged 26 is gone. They'd also know that few offenses can be successful when forced to be one-dimensional passing to try and catch up, especially a run first offense.

Game was tied at half so we weren't playing "catchup" until the Offense comes out and goes 3-and-out its first 2 series and then turns it over on downs on the 3rd series. Meanwhile, our turtle D rolled over on its back and let Puke put up 17 during that time.

The offense lost the game vs Puke right along with the defense. You can't score ZERO points in a half against Puke and blame the defense.
 

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Game was tied at half so we weren't playing "catchup" until the Offense comes out and goes 3-and-out its first 2 series and then turns it over on downs on the 3rd series. Meanwhile, our turtle D rolled over on its back and let Puke put up 17 during that time.

The offense lost the game vs Puke right along with the defense. You can't score ZERO points in a half against Puke and blame the defense.

One of the only games I have ever turned off early and just stopped watching. Just couldn't do it anymore by the 4th quarter : (
 

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One of the only games I have ever turned off early and just stopped watching. Just couldn't do it anymore by the 4th quarter : (
It looked like the entire team turned the game off at halftime too. I think had we closed our UT, Miami and UVA, the Duke game would’ve turned out a lot different.
 
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One of the only games I have ever turned off early and just stopped watching. Just couldn't do it anymore by the 4th quarter : (

It was the most embarrassed I've been to be a Tech fan since MTSU. The O just quit the 4th qtr after getting stymied the entire 3rd. Playcalling and execution was atrocious and the D looked like a high school D.
 
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