Big 10 Refs

[Jacket05]

I'm glad that Key showed displeasure with what he thought were bad calls or refs not protecting our players. BUT, he must not do anything that tacks on 15 yards of penalties. If he wants guys to not act out of idiotic emotion and get unsportsmanlike penalties, then he must show the leadership in this area. You are not going to win anything by going too far during the game.

The time to make sure the refs are held accountable is after the game, because nothing is going to change during the game.

I disagree, that is the time to hold them accountable! You can't change the outcome of a game by complaining about the refs after a game. If you do it after the game nothing changes, if you call them out during the game hopefully they start to think twice on the next call. At that point he just witnessed two horrendous calls within the last 7 plays not to mention all the other terrible calls/no calls that have been going on all game. But apparently rather than realizing they may be wrong they flagged Key even though coaches RARELY get called for penalties when they yell at the refs.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

I saw it like a basketball coach getting a T to hopefully fire his team up. What we saw was the old lineman coming out of him. Fighter!

Yeah, you never see that, and I hope, personally, it isn't something we see again. Tell me the last time you saw it before today in an NFL or college game?

I understand passionate fans wanting that, but I promise you that you do not want our HC getting a bad name within the referee groups - you always want the benefit of the doubt. I do agree the review decision on the punt and the one pass interference penalty were TERRIBLE.

The referees in football give a lot of allowance to upset coaches, so it must have crossed the line big time.

 

[Tom]

I agree with him here. He's entitled to his opinion. Silencing dissent is why we are here as a country.

Personally, I look at it like this. Agendas are very real. It's clear the Sec & Big 10 run college football.

There is NO WAY sankey would allow a sec team to get screwed like that without saying something. Jim Phillips is a figurehead and will never stand up the sec or big 10.

I saw a post that the calls were even but the calls that supposedly were make up calls against vandy happened after the game was relatively in hand. The egregious calls against Tech happened in the most critical part of the game. Sounds familiar---Athens 2024....

If you think refs don't have agendas, then I'm guessing you feel the government is out for your best interest or the medical community truly cares for your health vs a profit motive.

I don't blame the refs for the loss but it played a part. To me, this was a motivated Vandy team that didn't lose any starters to the portal and played like we were bama or tn tonight while Tech had four starters that contributed a lot to the 2024 season in Singleton, Lockett, Robinson, & Height out. That mattered a lot. Also, I'd point out that Malik likely wasn't practicing for a couple of weeks when he put himself in the portal so who knows how that affected him.

I do hope Key speaks out against this crap regarding the refs (Did you see how pissed Key was against the refs....Numerous f bombs dropped by the coach)...>I guess he sees it to...

As a NCAA ref, myself, refs don’t have agendas

 

[rfjeff9]

As a NCAA ref, myself, refs don’t have agendas

Maybe no agendas but they still make bad calls. These guys put on a seminar today for making bad calls.

 

[rfjeff9]

I'm glad that Key showed displeasure with what he thought were bad calls or refs not protecting our players. BUT, he must not do anything that tacks on 15 yards of penalties. If he wants guys to not act out of idiotic emotion and get unsportsmanlike penalties, then he must show the leadership in this area. You are not going to win anything by going too far during the game.

The time to make sure the refs are held accountable is after the game, because nothing is going to change during the game.

Kirby was in the refs ears all night long in Athens and it paid off for him in the end. Meanwhile Key was low profile and calm. Gained us nothing.

 

[apatriot1776]

God I hate blaming the refs. Nothing sucks more than a whiny fan. But at the same time I’ve felt screwed the last couple games in a way I haven’t in a long time, maybe ever. And we aren’t talented enough yet to flip the script on a bad call. I hope this rights itself in the future, whether by ACC intervention or just RNG going our way.

 

[Bogey]

My take is that Key seems to be reserved and not question most poor calls against us and then blows up when he has had enough of the poor officiating. As a head coach, he needs to know the rules as well or better than the officials and be able to present his case effectively on all poor calls during the game without pissing off the officials. Yes, it is a tough task. Kirby seems to be a master at this.
BTW, I love our coach!

 

[Jacket05]

My take is that Key seems to be reserved and not question most poor calls against us and then blows up when he has had enough of the poor officiating. As a head coach, he needs to know the rules as well or better than the officials and be able to present his case effectively on all poor calls during the game without pissing off the officials. Yes, it is a tough task. Kirby seems to be a master at this.
BTW, I love our coach!

Key is in the ears of the refs on a lot of calls and missed calls throughout the game. He just doesn't throw a toddler temper tantrum on every call against us like kirby Jigglypuff does, which is why it's probably not noticed as much. However, at that point in the game it was so egregious that the calm discussions in between plays was not sufficient.

 

[yeti92]

I didnt watch the second half, but I have seen clips of some of the ridiculously bad calls the refs made. At this point, I feel like the horrible officiating is up there with NIL and the transfer portal in terms of ruining college football. It's almost 2025, there have been cameras all over the field and booth review for a good while now, there is no reason this crap should still be happening, and yet nothing seems to be done to fix it. I'm really tired of it all ruining the game, to the point I'm glad I didn't watch the second half because its just a few more hours wasted being angry at the game being botched. It's like playing Monopoly with someone you know every time is going to knock the board off the table and mess everything up because they aren't doing well - even if you win you eventually just don't want to play because it gets ruined over and over.

 

[Randy Carson]

The complexity of the laws in this country have given rise to the idea that "The average person commits three felonies a day." I suspect that college football teams commit three penalties on every play.

I wasn't at the game, but I was told later that when we laced up against Cumberland a few years back, the rule "book" consisted of a single sheet of paper. Today, that wouldn't be enough space to cover the coin toss. Maybe it's become a bit like the tax code: too big to fully understand.

This is just another hurdle we have to get over as we rise to the upper echelon. Here's an analogy: detractors claim Duke basketball gets favorable officiating due to its success, Coach K's influence, the intimidating Cameron Crazies, and a reputation for disciplined play. High visibility in marquee games and confirmation bias amplify perceptions of favoritism. We're obviously not there, yet.

We have to show up for every game. We played lights out in Athens and lost to Vanderbilt. If we play EVERY game like we played a few of them, our record will reflect that effort and consistency. We're obviously not there, yet.

We need more depth to overcome injuries. We're obviously not there, yet, but I'm REALLY stoked about our recruiting and transfer successes.

So, I'm optimistic about the direction of the program and about next season, and I'd put money on there being more than a few Georgia fans who are nervous about our next meeting.

Go Irish!

 

[herb]

As a NCAA ref, myself, refs don’t have agendas

Suuuuuuure they don’t, lol. And neither does the media

 

[Northeast Stinger]

I'm with you but I'll say that we didn't lose "because" of the refs. It was feasible for us to maintain composure and play through the nonsense. Easy for me to say but it was a possibility and we let go of the rope, so to speak.

To be clear, what I'm basically describing is akin to climbing Everest. It's possible, but I ain't saying it's easy.

I can't imagine doing it in the face of arrogant a** refs that refuse to acknowledge they're actively screwing us. But ... it was possible.

Good analogy. And to push the analogy further, there’s climbing Everest in optimal conditions and there’s climbing Everest in a blizzard. Climbing Everest in optimal conditions is the same as overcoming bad refs while playing a lousy team making lots of mistakes. Vanderbilt was not a lousy team making lots of mistakes. We were trying to climb Everest in a blizzard.

 

[Towaliga]

As a NCAA ref, myself, refs don’t have agendas

Maybe the refs yesterday didn’t haven’t an agenda, but from what I saw, they also shouldn’t have a job.

During one of the many “Ref hou suck” chants during the game, the referee (head official) was shown on the Jumbotron and he started laughing. I think he was enjoying his day.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

The complexity of the laws in this country have given rise to the idea that "The average person commits three felonies a day." I suspect that college football teams commit three penalties on every play.

I wasn't at the game, but I was told later that when we laced up against Cumberland a few years back, the rule "book" consisted of a single sheet of paper. Today, that wouldn't be enough space to cover the coin toss. Maybe it's become a bit like the tax code: too big to fully understand.

This is just another hurdle we have to get over as we rise to the upper echelon. Here's an analogy: detractors claim Duke basketball gets favorable officiating due to its success, Coach K's influence, the intimidating Cameron Crazies, and a reputation for disciplined play. High visibility in marquee games and confirmation bias amplify perceptions of favoritism. We're obviously not there, yet.

We have to show up for every game. We played lights out in Athens and lost to Vanderbilt. If we play EVERY game like we played a few of them, our record will reflect that effort and consistency. We're obviously not there, yet.

We need more depth to overcome injuries. We're obviously not there, yet, but I'm REALLY stoked about our recruiting and transfer successes.

So, I'm optimistic about the direction of the program and about next season, and I'd put money on there being more than a few Georgia fans who are nervous about our next meeting.

Go Irish!

3 felonies a day!

I’m going to have to think long and hard about how to break it to my family that I’ve lived a life of crime.

 

[THWG]

Yeah, you never see that, and I hope, personally, it isn't something we see again. Tell me the last time you saw it before today in an NFL or college game?

I understand passionate fans wanting that, but I promise you that you do not want our HC getting a bad name within the referee groups - you always want the benefit of the doubt. I do agree the review decision on the punt and the one pass interference penalty were TERRIBLE.

The referees in football give a lot of allowance to upset coaches, so it must have crossed the line big time.

I remember Saban getting one before. It happens and I'm glad Key did it this game. That was the most animated I have seen him and for good reason.

 

[tomknight]

I'm glad that Key showed displeasure with what he thought were bad calls or refs not protecting our players. BUT, he must not do anything that tacks on 15 yards of penalties. If he wants guys to not act out of idiotic emotion and get unsportsmanlike penalties, then he must show the leadership in this area. You are not going to win anything by going too far during the game.

The time to make sure the refs are held accountable is after the game, because nothing is going to change during the game.

I disagree. Sometimes, a baseball manager has to get ejected to send a message to the players. Will it change anything in-game? No.

But it still has to be done.

That was some BS garbage going on there, and he needed to do what he did. Had they not called him, they would've found some other garbage bs to call.

It was like that movie Remember the Titans.

 

[Southern psu fan]

A player had to restrain CBK at one point.

James Franklin said he was going to say what he wants to say about the big 10 refs after the season is over. In the big 10 championship game there should’ve been a 100 yards worth of holding on Oregon they couldn’t block Abdul Carter #11 he was being pulled down by the jersey right in front of the refs all over the Oregon QB and they didn’t call holding one time. When teams have running QB’s if there’s any holding it needs to be called..period. I missed the first half so I didn’t get to see CBK get restrained by the players but i definitely understand his frustrations.

My friends, we had a very good season considering nothing went our way this year with injuries and the schedule being as tough as it was. Vanderbilt beat Alabama so this team was no walkover it’s just one of those years the ball didn’t bounce our way. We beat 2 top 10 teams this year and had a chance to beat the pups…it was a good season I’m happy where the team is with the wins, transfer portal and recruiting we got some great days ahead. On my Penn St forum I’ve got some of those dudes pulling for the Jackets lol

 

[tomknight]

Yeah, you never see that, and I hope, personally, it isn't something we see again. Tell me the last time you saw it before today in an NFL or college game?

I understand passionate fans wanting that, but I promise you that you do not want our HC getting a bad name within the referee groups - you always want the benefit of the doubt. I do agree the review decision on the punt and the one pass interference penalty were TERRIBLE.

The referees in football give a lot of allowance to upset coaches, so it must have crossed the line big time.

I coached travel softball for 15 years. I knew the rules as well as they did, and I explained all I could. You never get a call reversed, but occasionally will have a close one go your way.

But, having been on the diamond so long, and knowing them all, if I ever lost my stuff during a game, they knew it was for a reason. I only got ejected once in all that time (got warned a number of times), where home town refs absolutely skewed a game towards their locals. Other teams watching our game all knew it too. So did the refs, who smirked when I called timeout and asked for explanations. After the game, the other coach even apologized.

There is throwing a fit because you're an ***, and there is throwing a fit for effect. I think Key got it right.

 

[stinger78]

We beat 2 3 top 10 teams this year, getting rooked out of 1, and had a chance to beat the pups…it was a good season I’m happy where the team is with the wins, transfer portal and recruiting we got some great days ahead.

FTFY.

 

[Backstreetbuzz]

As a NCAA ref, myself, refs don’t have agendas

So, you are saying that last night’s refs were just incompetent.