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senoiajacket

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CJP 18-33 (.353) previous 3 years 8-10, 3-15, 6-12
CDM 23-62 (.271) previous 3 years 6-12, 6-12, 4-12
CJC 17-69 (.198) previous 3 years 4-14, 8-10, 4-12
CBP 42-45 (.482) previous 3 years 2-16, 4-14, 4-12

If we could play .500 for the next 2 years, CJP gets to 36-51 (.414).

Last time we got to .500 in conf play was 2006. Last time we had back to back .500 or greater was 2003 & 2004.

Its a long, uphill battle.
 

GT_EE78

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CJP 18-33 (.353) previous 3 years 8-10, 3-15, 6-12
CDM 23-62 (.271) previous 3 years 6-12, 6-12, 4-12
CJC 17-69 (.198) previous 3 years 4-14, 8-10, 4-12
CBP 42-45 (.482) previous 3 years 2-16, 4-14, 4-12

If we could play .500 for the next 2 years, CJP gets to 36-51 (.414).

Last time we got to .500 in conf play was 2006. Last time we had back to back .500 or greater was 2003 & 2004.

Its a long, uphill battle.
lets see now , that's ONE better than .500 acc year for GT since 1996. Things could start breaking our way any decade now.
 

MiracleWhips

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Personally, I don't really care. I guess the only reason to care would be ACC/B10 challenge. Does it really matter if 4th from the bottom, 5th from the bottom or 6th from the bottom? Not to me.


You do realize being 6th from the bottom would arguably make us a post season team? So I think its a pretty big deal.
 

senoiajacket

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You do realize being 6th from the bottom would arguably make us a post season team? So I think its a pretty big deal.
Whaaaa? Have you looked at the ACC standings? BC is currently sixth from the bottom. Don't think they are getting in. Clemson is 7th from the bottom (but two games ahead in the standings of BC) and they are showing as last 4 in. So I guess you and I are looking at different contexts. I am looking at this year and this year, if we finish 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th from the bottom, I can's see much difference. All of those teams from 10th on down are irrelevant. It just means you are the best of the worst.
 

ESPNjacket

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Postseason?
You do realize being 6th from the bottom would arguably make us a post season team? So I think its a pretty big deal.

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slugboy

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one correction. Moore was at #86 after 6 games so he is down slightly.

It should not be a big surprise that most ratings went down. That middle stretch was brutal both in terms of the level of competition and the results.

I tweaked this over the years and prefer efficiency per game metrics to efficiency per possession or minute metrics because the per possession metrics will often overrate some players. For example, if you used my eff per min metric or the PER, then Jay Huff of UVA would be ranked as one of the 10-15 best players in the conference. But i feel like if he really was one of the 10 best players in the conference Bennett would play him more than 9 mpg. in my per game metric he ranks #99.

You can decide for yourself if you like the rankings - here are the Top 20
Williamson - Duke 37.42
Barrett - Duke 29.25
Blackshear - VT 25.43
White - UNC 25.29
Johnson - Pitt 25.08
Robinson - VT 25.00
Johnson - UNC 24.21
Reed - Clem 23.96
Bowman - BC 23.58
Alexander-Walker - VT 22.64
Battle - Syr 22.33
Mooney - ND 22.00
Jerome - UVA 21.71
Lykes - Mia 21.46
Kabengele - FSU 20.33
Hunter - UVA 20.08
Nwora - L'ville 19.46
Maye - UNC 19.46
Jones - Duke 19.05
Gibbs - ND 19.05

In past years 20 has been close to the cutoff for All-ACC level players and that appears to be holding again. i usually get 1 or 2 players per year that avg close to 30, so that 37.42 is sort of insane.

How are you putting your numbers together? Any source you like, or building them yourself?


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RamblinRed

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I pull the numbers from each school's website using just conference stats.
I build the efficiency numbers using my own formula that i've tweaked over the years.

On another note. Wake's AD Ron Wellman is retiring and they are hiring John Currie to replace him. Currie is a Wake alum and had a short tenure as AD at TN and was AD at Kansas St before that. I expect this is the first move before they fire Manning and eat his rumored 8 figure buyout.
 

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Did anybody see the ending of the Clemson/UNC game? We had some terrible Refs at our game, and they screwed the pooch over there too. When the color commentators call out the Refs, you know its bad.
 
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