ACC Discussion 2021-22

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RamblinRed said:
The issue is the buyout. Assuming KK has any brain at all and exercises the clause in the contract his buyout would be $8.1M this year and $6.75M after next season. From seeing some of the comments on their board it feels like most of their fans don't think they have enough money to fire him for at least 2 more years.

This is the reason Capel still has a job at Pitt. Rumor is his buyout is still >$10M there.
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So our AD's aren't the only ones making mistakes with coaching contracts. Keatts has a good agent and legal advice.
 
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The ACC's national perception this season was colored by the fact it had the worst record of any of the power conferences in games against other power conferences.
When you lose most of your regular season games against other power conferences the perception is going to be that your conference is not very strong.
 

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RamblinRed said:
The ACC's national perception this season was colored by the fact it had the worst record of any of the power conferences in games against other power conferences.
When you lose most of your regular season games against other power conferences the perception is going to be that your conference is not very strong.
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Unless it's the SEC losing bowl games. Then they just didn't care
 
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Root4GT said:
If the SEC lost all their early season non conference games the perception would change. That hasn't happened yet.
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If they played anyone good (not talking about the top of the SEC, but everyone else), their early-season non-conference record would not be very good. The problem is their middle and bottom teams play no one and their top teams usually play at home or on a neutral site early on. There are a few teams that will step up in the SEC and schedule, but not many.
 

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forensicbuzz said:
If they played anyone good (not talking about the top of the SEC, but everyone else), their early-season non-conference record would not be very good. The problem is their middle and bottom teams play no one and their top teams usually play at home or on a neutral site early on. There are a few teams that will step up in the SEC and schedule, but not many.
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Bingo on this. Their best teams will play good OOC teams, but the middle and bottom tier teams largely beat up on weak teams and play alot of home games.
 

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Expanded conference schedules shrink the number of pre-season games and, therefore, increase the relative importance of the pre-season slate even though it is fewer games (fewer data points) and earlier in the season. This serves to skew the power rankings due to greater error based on fewer data points heading into conference play. The distortion persists through the rest of the season until the post season tournament.

If the priority is to achieve more accurate power rankings and seedings in the tournament, then it would be better to allow teams about 5 pre-season scimmages that don't count. Then go directly into conference play. At the conclusion of conference play, construct out of conference schedues based on a round-robin of dual meets among the conferences (like the ACC-BIG, BIG-Pac-10, SEC-BigEast, etc. ) where the shedule is based on CURRENT conference standings. That way, every team's out of conference schedule will be against similarly ranked teams in ten other conferences. For example, If GT finished 5th in the ACC, then their out of conference slate would be playing the 5th place team from 10 other conferences.

Do that, and the power rankings would be pretty accurate heading into the tournament.
 
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There are so many tourney-eligible teams that I don’t think that they play nearly enough inter-conference games to get trustworthy RPI/KPom/Sagarin/etc rankings of the teams.
One of the beauties of the tournament is that we don’t know who’s the best or what conferences are the strongest. We finally know a bit better now that we’ve gotten into the sweet 16/elite 8.
That makes the tourney fun, but the last 16 in/first 16 out aren’t getting picked scientifically by an impartial crew. They’re pretty good, but they’re not perfect, and talking heads have an influence.
 

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MtnWasp said:
Expanded conference schedules shrink the number of pre-season games and, therefore, increase the relative importance of the pre-season slate even though it is fewer games (fewer data points) and earlier in the season. This serves to skew the power rankings due to greater error based on fewer data points heading into conference play. The distortion persists through the rest of the season until the post season tournament.

If the priority is to achieve more accurate power rankings and seedings in the tournament, then it would be better to allow teams about 5 pre-season scimmages that don't count. Then go directly into conference play. At the conclusion of conference play, construct out of conference schedues based on a round-robin of dual meets among the conferences (like the ACC-BIG, BIG-Pac-10, SEC-BigEast, etc. ) where the shedule is based on CURRENT conference standings. That way, every team's out of conference schedule will be against similarly ranked teams in ten other conferences. For example, If GT finished 5th in the ACC, then their out of conference slate would be playing the 5th place team from 10 other conferences.

Do that, and the power rankings would be pretty accurate heading into the tournament.
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Reasonable thoughts. I might take a 10 day period in late January and have the inter conference games when the teams are seasoned but still have Conference games left. Sadly neither approach will occur as the NCAA is very content with things as they currently exist.
 

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dtm1997 said:
Those classes were open to everyone.

The other one had a mom that derailed DLaB's career to throw the NCAA off of dook's trail.
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So you're defending unc for having fake classes, what was their argument for the acreditation people about that again? and holding it against Duke that one of our assistants broke the rules?


Duke ain't clean. But unc is covered in just as much if not more mud.
 
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