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Discussion in 'Georgia Tech Football' started by vadimivich, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. stech81

    stech81 Helluva Engineer

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    Please stop with how bad you think CPJ was as a coach. There are some of us who liked him. But we are trying to get behind CGC but people like you make it hard cause you won't let it go. Talk about the recruiting and the future and stop all this past garbage that divides our fan base
     
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  2. vadimivich

    vadimivich Ramblin' Wreck

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    I actually quite liked the last head coach, there's plenty of history there where you can find stuff I've said, back to before he was hired.

    The last several years he completely mailed it in and left the program in a bad state. That's also a part of his legacy, and it effects how we have to look at the program in the near future.
     
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  3. TheFlyest

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    “According to Kendall Baker’s “2018 College Football’s Best Fed Teams” spreadsheet, which takes the average height and weight of every player on the 2018 roster who played into account, Georgia Tech ranked at No. 115 out of 132 FBS teams with a height average of 73.622 inches and a weight average of 229.0793 pounds. For comparison’s sake, Georgia ranked at No. 11, with an average height of 74.3821 and a weight of 242.2784. Collins was right when he said that Georgia Tech had the second-smallest averages out of all Power 5 programs. Only Washington State ranked lower than Georgia Tech on this spreadsheet, coming in at No. 122.”


    Staying on point: Geoff Collins turns message to recruiting after loss to Georgia
    https://theathletic.com/1423013/201...lowing-loss-to-georgia/?source=shared-article
     
  4. True2GT

    True2GT Jolly Good Fellow

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    Same sized players have been getting the job done pretty well for the last decade. Let's move on to the future. Focus on next seasons not excuses why this season was the way it was.
     
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  5. GTJake

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    ... and a BIG "Amen" to this !!
     
  6. TheFlyest

    TheFlyest Helluva Engineer

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    3 out of 11 seasons is not what I would consider getting the job done. But OK
     
  7. True2GT

    True2GT Jolly Good Fellow

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    You choose 3 I would have it 4 maybe 5 were pretty good and all but one was on par with the history of the team. We can agree to disagree and look forward to the future.
     
  8. Jacket Bracket

    Jacket Bracket Ramblin' Wreck

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    If only we played like a team with those averages, everyone would understand!

    Our current FPI rating is 112. To put in perspective…

    110 - Georgia State
    111 - UL Monroe
    112 - Georgia Tech
    113 - Charlotte
    114 - C Carolina

    I am quite sure we recruited better than this group…coaching however…not so much!
     
  9. GTJake

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    I think it's important to remember that this is a young coaching staff and that there is some "learning on the job" going on as well.
    Given the chance, pay-back will be golden for us (pun intended) ...
     
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  10. lv20gt

    lv20gt Helluva Engineer

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    During every transition the state of the program is intrinsically tied to the coach that just left. This one is no different.

    Some of it is just a matter of fact and not a critique. For instance, Oliver might have been a good QB for Johnson, but he wasn't a good QB for any other system. I don't expect any coach to recruit for a system they don't run, but even so our QB situation is a direct result of who Johnson recruited. Same can be said for other factors like WRs and a lack of a TE. Some things are a critique. The state of our defense is a big problem and the poor recruiting and coaching on that side of the ball is a huge issue that falls right at the feet of Johnson as it did for the last decade. Some things are mixed. For example, the OL is a result of both recruiting for a different system but also poor recruiting and coaching.

    Lastly there are some things that aren't on Johnson at all. The injuries are the most obvious. The effect of the current staff treating the first couple of games as an open tryout at QB are another.
     
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  11. Augusta_Jacket

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    Who was predicting long term results? My statement was that I'd be content with 7-8 win seasons if we had the occasional 10+ win season like we did twice during the last 11 years under CPJ. If CGCs coaching record mirrors CPJs in the W-L department I am ok with that. Unless we crack the top 15 in recruiting regularly, we are not likely to out factory the factories, and we can't count on the other teams we play against to stay static either.

    I also give ALL CREDIT to CPJ for 2008-2009 because I watched an ACCCG where the former coach couldn't score a TD in spite of having Calvin freaking Johnson on the field. I have absolutely no confidence that Gailey could have won more than 8-9 games with the class he recruited in 2007.
     
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    Most of the stuff you’ve been posting has been laughable but this statement is just COMPLETELY ridiculous.

    He graduated and is going to Grad school. That is an opportunity Parker decided to explore and is in no way CGC’s fault.
     
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  13. Augusta_Jacket

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    The team had plenty of talent to run the 3O. It didn't have the talent to run the "NFL style" offense we ran this year. Our Defense has several 4* players recruited by the previous staff. Not sure that we lacked talent, just the right type of talent.
     
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  14. True2GT

    True2GT Jolly Good Fellow

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    He literally said he was leaving to better prepare for the NFL right after CGC was hired and stated he would run an NFL offense. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
     
  15. Ibeeballin

    Ibeeballin GT Athlete

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    Lol @True2GT is just going to make Braun leaving CGC fault when Braun’s dad came here himself saying he was leaving regardless
     
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  16. Ibeeballin

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    @True2GT

     
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  17. Milwaukee

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    Pretty sure he’s a regular poster he just created a new account for whatever reason. He’s on the loose today that’s for sure. Ignored.
     
  18. True2GT

    True2GT Jolly Good Fellow

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    Recruiting is convincing good players to come to your school and play football there. What this shows me is that CGC wasn't a good enough recruiter to convince PB to stay. How is that inaccurate? Isn't CGC supposed to be a magician recruiter?

    Here we go again...
     
  19. Augusta_Jacket

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    The guy has 15 posts and joined yesterday. It's entirely possible he never saw that post from Mr Braun.
     
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  20. Augusta_Jacket

    Augusta_Jacket Helluva Engineer

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    Very possible. I am trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     

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