2024 non-GT games thread
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Thwg777
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Also, FWIW, betting market updates on pricing…
The bets are ‘to make CFP’
Alabama is priced at 50/50 (essentially the pricing on both yes and no is the same). 50% chance they make the playoffs.
Miami pays 10-1 for yes. This is priced that their odds to make the playoffs are around 7%. (Context, you’d have to bet $2,500 on ‘no’ to win $100 if they don’t make the playoffs. And bet $9.62 on yes to win $100 if they make the playoffs).
Ole Miss is priced as it ain’t gonna happen.
SMU is priced around 75% chance they make the playoffs.
USCe is priced around 20% chance they make the playoffs.
Conclusion, if you follow the money, Bama is favored over USCe from the SEC. And Miami is pretty much dead.
The bets are ‘to make CFP’
Alabama is priced at 50/50 (essentially the pricing on both yes and no is the same). 50% chance they make the playoffs.
Miami pays 10-1 for yes. This is priced that their odds to make the playoffs are around 7%. (Context, you’d have to bet $2,500 on ‘no’ to win $100 if they don’t make the playoffs. And bet $9.62 on yes to win $100 if they make the playoffs).
Ole Miss is priced as it ain’t gonna happen.
SMU is priced around 75% chance they make the playoffs.
USCe is priced around 20% chance they make the playoffs.
Conclusion, if you follow the money, Bama is favored over USCe from the SEC. And Miami is pretty much dead.
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forensicbuzz
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We already know it’s not about who deserves to be there, it’s about what makes great TV.
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Would the CFP TV audience be different if SMU is playing PSU than if uga is playing Oregon? I wonder if the difference matters to the CFP or ESPN. The ads are already sold and the contract for the rights is locked in. I will watch either way.
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I don't even see Colorado. I feel like they're the same team as Miami, but with the probable Heisman winner.
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The Texas Coach handled it well when his players started to Plant a Flag at A&M. He and his staff ran to where the players were and got them off the center of the field! Good job by him unlike what the Michigan and NCT Coaches did!
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I don't like the visiting team doing the flag planting thing. It's not necessary. It crosses the "stay classy" & basic sportsmanship line for me.
HOWEVER... the home team simply ignoring it is the way to stop it from happening. The best way to keep the visitors from hurting your feelings over such a gesture is to beat them in the game you just LOST. Picking a fight after getting your butts kicked between the lines (over a silly flag on your field) is weak.
HOWEVER... the home team simply ignoring it is the way to stop it from happening. The best way to keep the visitors from hurting your feelings over such a gesture is to beat them in the game you just LOST. Picking a fight after getting your butts kicked between the lines (over a silly flag on your field) is weak.
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My last guess at CFP.
No particular order:
Locks (100% to get in):
Oregon
Notre Dame
Penn State
Ohio State
Texas
Tennessee
Indiana
CFP play-in games:
Iowa St / Arizona St
Boise St / UNLV
Clempson / SMU
That’s 10 teams. Need 2 more…
The dwags are likely in. But if they get murdered by Texas, there’s an argument to be made against them since in this scenario, they’d have two blowout losses since November, three ‘bad’ wins, and one good win…
If SMU loses close to Clempson, they’re likely still in. If they lose big, they’re out. If SMU wins, I think Bama takes the last spot. The argument would be between Bama and USCe…
If u(sic)ga is out, likely Bama and/or USCe are in. I don’t see any scenario for Miami to be in. Nor Ole Miss. Nor Army.
No particular order:
Locks (100% to get in):
Oregon
Notre Dame
Penn State
Ohio State
Texas
Tennessee
Indiana
CFP play-in games:
Iowa St / Arizona St
Boise St / UNLV
Clempson / SMU
That’s 10 teams. Need 2 more…
The dwags are likely in. But if they get murdered by Texas, there’s an argument to be made against them since in this scenario, they’d have two blowout losses since November, three ‘bad’ wins, and one good win…
If SMU loses close to Clempson, they’re likely still in. If they lose big, they’re out. If SMU wins, I think Bama takes the last spot. The argument would be between Bama and USCe…
If u(sic)ga is out, likely Bama and/or USCe are in. I don’t see any scenario for Miami to be in. Nor Ole Miss. Nor Army.
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Root4GT
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It is low class to “Flag Plant” on an opposing teams logo and is an invitation to a fight.
Just walking away is not the answer. The instigator should be the team penalized.
I was happy to see Pepper Spray used at Ohio State on the players to separate them.
Suspect the offending coach for a game. He will get his team under control quickly if that is in place as will all coaches.
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How does getting a piece of the hedge fit into this who thing? I have no problem with that, but it could be construed as not classy.
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I'm sure it is construed by some as not classy. You're allowed to be fine with it. Plucking a piece of hedge (to me) is not a big deal. I suppose taken to an extreme (tearing out the whole bush)... is vandalism & over the line.
I've seen some commentary today of some who have no problem with the flag planting.
What you cannot control (much) or know (in advance) is how people will react to these kinds of things. I've never been a guy who says "...they're asking for a fight" when the initial thing is clearly non-violent... but I realize we're in a world of the aggrieved & disrespected really have "no choice" but to respond very publicly & often violently. I still tend to believe self-control is a noble character trait.
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Planting your flag on your opponents logo is 100% an invitation to fight. It’s easy to say, “just walk away” or “you should’ve won the game if you wanted to fight.” But anybody who’s ever played a competitive sport knows emotions are running high, especially in the rivalry games. The flag planters know with absolute certainty that their actions are likely to cause a fight, yet they do it anyway. It’s disrespectful by its nature, and nobody likes to get disrespected. Especially somebody that just poured their blood, sweat, and tears into something, not only for a 60 minute game, but for 4 years of college and 20+ years of their life.
Should the losing team be disciplined enough to move on and not let it get under their skin? Yeah probably, but that’s such a hard thing to do when you’re a competitor and feel like you’re been disrespected. Honestly if I was a coach or a fan and another team planted their flag on my logo and there wasn’t some form of retaliation I’d probably be pretty pissed about it. Winning team should just be the bigger person. You just beat your rival on their home turf, no need to be a sore winner and try to rub it in even more. If you want to run your flag up and down the field and celebrate, that’s fine I don’t think anyone has a problem with that. But don’t go have a ceremony at midfield with the sole intention of disrespect.
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I do not have a problem with teams defending their stadium from opposing players planting a flag in the middle of their field. I remember Drew Butler planting a flag in the middle of BDS and wishing our team would have gang tackled him. In fact, if I were a head coach I would have warned the opposing coach that if we lost, they are more than welcome to celebrate. However, if they performed any act of disrespect like planting the flag, that I would be instructing my team to all attack the player and defend our home stadium.
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Looks like Michigan and Ohio State both got fined for their dust up
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ten-fines-michigan-ohio-state-100k-role-melee
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Fines are meaningless. Suspending the offending coach has an impact and forces him to be accountable. Suspending players won’t work the the flag planter could be a 3rd string player.
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Indeed, $100k fines to the Michigan and Ohio State programs are a slap on the wrist. That's why I used the term "significant". Suspending a coach might work better though.
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I remember someone on here mentioning SC's FR QB. I had never heard of him until Saturday when I watched their game against Clemson. Wow!!!! This guy IS the real deal. Incredibly quick and elusive for someone with his size. He looks like a sure fire guy to be playing on Sundays for an even bigger paycheck. Anybody else see this game?