2024 non-GT games thread

[Northeast Stinger]

Geez, I am So sorry for having opinions as a fan

Yeah, what’s wrong with you.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Faceguarding is not a penalty in the NCAA rulebook.

That's exactly what I said above. My issue is that NCAA refs still call PI on plays where faceguarding is the only "infraction."

 

[MWBATL]

That's exactly what I said above. My issue is that NCAA refs still call PI on plays where faceguarding is the only "infraction."

Is this the origin of the “it’s always PI if the DB doesn’t look back at the ball” mantra?

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

So, coaches should simply ignore all the data they have about their strengths and the opponents weaknesses, plus the situation data they have for both teams. If they had your contact info they wouldn't need all that research. Simply call @UgaBlows for the play call. Of course, you need to make sure you are watching the game live and not on some silly delay (like YT TV or Spectrum).

My HS school coach was very old school. And we ran out of the shotgun some before it was cool.

He preached every day. “Never let the ball go backwards inside the 20!”

 

[stinger78]

Is this the origin of the “it’s always PI if the DB doesn’t look back at the ball” mantra?

It’s a PI if the DB doesn’t play the ball and bumps/grabs/pushes the receiver.

 

[MWBATL]

It’s a PI if the DB doesn’t play the ball and bumps/grabs/pushes the receiver.

I have seen it called when the defender simply obstructs the ball, but never turns around to 'play the ball' and announcers seem to always say (if the defender doesn't turn back to try to make a play on the ball, it's always PI".

Is it just one ot hose things officials get stuck on?

 

[bobongo]

I have seen it called when the defender simply obstructs the ball, but never turns around to 'play the ball' and announcers seem to always say (if the defender doesn't turn back to try to make a play on the ball, it's always PI".

Is it just one ot hose things officials get stuck on?

There has to be some contact. In that case, an official is much more likely to throw a flag if the defender doesn't turn around. It's the difference between playing the ball with incidental contact and obstructing the receiver.

 

[MWBATL]

There has to be some contact.

Apparently that contact can be real OR imagined....as I have seen plenty of cases where it was truly incidental at most.

 

[Richard7125]

With the legalization of helping the runner now, it boggles my mind why anyone would do anything other than just hammer the ball into the end zone with a first down on the one yard line. Just hike it and cram the ball over the goal line with a full house backfield pushing from behind. Might take two or three attempts.

i still have nightmares when Bill Curry called 4 QB sneaks from the 1 or 2 and didn't get in. It may not have happened exactly like that, but that's how i remember it 40 years later. I don't even remember the team.

 

[bobongo]

i still have nightmares when Bill Curry called 4 QB sneaks from the 1 or 2 and didn't get in. It may not have happened exactly like that, but that's how i remember it 40 years later. I don't even remember the team.

A big difference between then and now is that helping the runner was against the rules at that time.

 

[Richard7125]

A big difference between then and now is that helping the runner was against the rules at that time.

totally agree.

 

[bobongo]

Apparently that contact can be real OR imagined....as I have seen plenty of cases where it was truly incidental at most.

Incidental contact would be viewed in most cases as pass interference if the defender has his back to the ball. There's no doubt officials miss calls from time to time.

 

[stinger78]

I have seen it called when the defender simply obstructs the ball, but never turns around to 'play the ball' and announcers seem to always say (if the defender doesn't turn back to try to make a play on the ball, it's always PI".

Is it just one ot hose things officials get stuck on?

Face guarding used to be a penalty. I haven’t seen it called in years, so it must have been changed at some point.

Officials have always flagged contact (and continue to) when the defender is not playing the ball. If he is playing the ball, much more “incidental contact” is allowed as both have equal right to pursue possession.

 

[Yaller Jacket]

Different topic. I've watched a good bit of ND and OSU, and they seem evenly matched to me. I was astounded to see Ohio State is favored by 9.5 points! Does that surprise anyone else?

 

[jgtengineer]

Different topic. I've watched a good bit of ND and OSU, and they seem evenly matched to me. I was astounded to see Ohio State is favored by 9.5 points! Does that surprise anyone else?

Nto really ND has more key injuries than OSU and that OSU runnign game is soemthing else.

 

[stinger78]

Different topic. I've watched a good bit of ND and OSU, and they seem evenly matched to me. I was astounded to see Ohio State is favored by 9.5 points! Does that surprise anyone else?

It’s all to force money to one side or another. OSU is B1G and enjoys a much more positive narrative than ND.

 

[orientalnc]

It’s all to force money to one side or another. OSU is B1G and enjoys a much more positive narrative than ND.

Vegas oddsmakers believe it will take 9.5 points to get ND bettors at the same level as tOSU bettors. I think that is what you are saying, so we're not disagreeing. Just another way of saying it.

 

[WreckinGT]

Different topic. I've watched a good bit of ND and OSU, and they seem evenly matched to me. I was astounded to see Ohio State is favored by 9.5 points! Does that surprise anyone else?

Not really. Ohio St was a 7 point favorite against Tenn and crushed that. They were a 2.5 point favorite over Oregon and crushed that. They started as a 4.5 point favorite over Texas and it quickly moved to 6.5 and then settled at 6. They covered that easily. There will be plenty of action on Ohio St with a 9.5 point spread. I wouldnt be surprised if it moves to double digits.

 

[UgaBlows]

Different topic. I've watched a good bit of ND and OSU, and they seem evenly matched to me. I was astounded to see Ohio State is favored by 9.5 points! Does that surprise anyone else?

Defenses are pretty equal but ND’s offense is not up to par with OSU’s

 

[Randy Carson]

How to Come From Behind Late

1. Send a receiver deep.
2. Instruct the QB to underthrow the ball before the DB has time to turn his head.
3. Coach the receiver to flail his arms, make contact and/or fall down while appearing to go back for the short ball.
4. Accept the penalty, move the chains, reset the downs.