2024 non-GT games thread

stinger78

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There is a catchable rule in college football, but that pass was catchable. If the pass had landed way out of bounds or been 20 yards away, that would likely not have been catchable. But saying "I don't think the receiver was going to get to it" doesn't make it uncatchable.


He never tuned on the ball. That used to be virtually an automatic PI if you bumped the receiver. So many DBs don’t bother to turn these days. I don’t get it. That looks legit to me.
 

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Drew Allar is so overrated. He’s just not a QB that can put a team on his back and get a win. Dude gets outplayed every game by the other QB’s even the games we win. 0-6 against the heavyweights.
Can't disagree. Franklin will take the loss and get heat for not winning the big one, but Allar threw the ridiculous, ill-advised pass that turned into the interception that cost Penn State the game.
 

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Lots of former players on X coming out and saying they HATE the PI call on balls that are underthrown
I've been saying this for years. It's absolutely ****ing stupid to make these calls. Quarterbacks are incentivized to make a "bad" throw rather than a good throw because the DB has to somehow turnaround before the ball hits him in the back. There is zero reason for any QB to try to drop a pass over top a DB anymore when you can just throw it purposefully short and draw the DPI. I fully agree with not tackling a receiver but when you're already in a disadvantage positionally, you can't even let a terrible pass hit your back?

Then on top of that, even if you do turn around and go for the pick, the WR can grab you with both arms and body slam you without getting an offensive PI call.
 

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The rules interpretations were supposed to allow more use of hands for offensive linemen while also allowing more contact by defensive backs. IMO over time they have further relaxed the calls for offensive holding while tightening the calls for defensive PI. At least it seems like that to me. It also likely depends on the crew calling the game.
 

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The rules interpretations were supposed to allow more use of hands for offensive linemen while also allowing more contact by defensive backs. IMO over time they have further relaxed the calls for offensive holding while tightening the calls for defensive PI. At least it seems like that to me. It also likely depends on the crew calling the game.
I don't think there was ever (during my years watching football) a time when that play would not have been DPI. It was pretty blatant. The DB had his back to the ball and was not making a play on the ball. And, he knocked the receiver down while the receiver was trying to make a play. That the pass was intercepted by a 3rd player is irrelevant.
 

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Drew Allar is so overrated. He’s just not a QB that can put a team on his back and get a win. Dude gets outplayed every game by the other QB’s even the games we win. 0-6 against the heavyweights.
Agreed I bought into his hype going into last year and it fell short. I didn't understand why he was still getting hyped up this year. Such is the life of a PSU QB i guess
 

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Drew Allar is so overrated. He’s just not a QB that can put a team on his back and get a win. Dude gets outplayed every game by the other QB’s even the games we win. 0-6 against the heavyweights.
Both quarterbacks made bad plays it’s just that one of them cost the ball game in final seconds of the game. Tragic if you’re a Penn State fan.

Having a defender fall down and leave a receiver wide open for a game tying TD was also tragic.
 

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I don't think there was ever (during my years watching football) a time when that play would not have been DPI. It was pretty blatant. The DB had his back to the ball and was not making a play on the ball. And, he knocked the receiver down while the receiver was trying to make a play. That the pass was intercepted by a 3rd player is irrelevant.
Yep, for us oldsters, that one gets called every time. Used to get one just for “face guarding” but that was stupid and gotten rid of.
 

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Overall all a good game last night.
First half I thought Penn State dominated and Notre Dame is lucky to only be down a touchdown.
Then momentum swung Notre Dame took the lead, only to be overtaken by Penn State, then tied up by Notre Dame, then a FG for the win with less than 15 seconds left on the clock.
You do have to give Franklin credit for using his time out to save a little bit of time for a miracle comeback.
 

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I don't think there was ever (during my years watching football) a time when that play would not have been DPI. It was pretty blatant. The DB had his back to the ball and was not making a play on the ball. And, he knocked the receiver down while the receiver was trying to make a play. That the pass was intercepted by a 3rd player is irrelevant.
The contact and was way more of a glancing incidental contact. The defender was also making a concerted effort to get out of the way when the receiver slowed down and turned around. The main reason the receiver fell down was because he was running in that direction turned around and jumped up so he fell backwards when he came down. I do still agree that the call was correct by the letter of the rule. However, as many have stated the rule should be adjusted so that this type is not considered PI.

On another note, not only was there the blatant missed holding call on the PennSt drive before that, there were tons of times I watched the PennSt OL grab and yank ND defensive players down when they would get past them. So there were tons of clear holding calls.
 

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The contact and was way more of a glancing incidental contact. The defender was also making a concerted effort to get out of the way when the receiver slowed down and turned around. The main reason the receiver fell down was because he was running in that direction turned around and jumped up so he fell backwards when he came down. I do still agree that the call was correct by the letter of the rule. However, as many have stated the rule should be adjusted so that this type is not considered PI.
The receiver did not "fall down." He was knocked down by the DB while he was jumping to catch the pass. Incidental contact does not put well trained athletes on their butt.
 

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I agree it was pass interference, but I'm interested to know why you think P.I. shouldn't be reviewable.
PI calls are extremely subjective and the rules are wide open to interpretation. If the plays are reviewed and get reversed over time officials will stop calling PI many times when it should be called. Human nature says it’s better to not call a penalty and not have your call overturned than to call a penalty and have the play overturned.

As we have seen with Targeting having a review has not helped clarify what Targeting is.

For the ND game penalty on this board we are fairly split on it was / was not PI. So depending on which of us is the review official the call stands or is reversed. Just more controversy for no better result.
 

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The receiver did not "fall down." He was knocked down by the DB while he was jumping to catch the pass. Incidental contact does not put well trained athletes on their butt.
It wasn't like he was just standing there. He was running and turned and jumped up and back. Momentum took him backwards more than the defender. Also as I said it was the right call but it's not like he plowed straight through him.

In addition plenty of trained athletes fall without being touched.


One of tons of videos after a quick Google search with NFL receivers jumping and falling when making a catch with little to no contact from the defender.
 

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I don't think there was ever (during my years watching football) a time when that play would not have been DPI. It was pretty blatant. The DB had his back to the ball and was not making a play on the ball. And, he knocked the receiver down while the receiver was trying to make a play. That the pass was intercepted by a 3rd player is irrelevant.
I wasn't referencing that specific call. It was faceguarding at the very least. I was being more general. There is so much offensive line holding that could be called now that isn't. The PI calls are often subjective. The one in the endzone was the correct call.
 

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It wasn't like he was just standing there. He was running and turned and jumped up and back. Momentum took him backwards more than the defender. Also as I said it was the right call but it's not like he plowed straight through him.

In addition plenty of trained athletes fall without being touched.


One of tons of videos after a quick Google search with NFL receivers jumping and falling when making a catch with little to no contact from the defender.
I can't find it, but I saw a video from a side goal line camera that showed it was more than just a little bump. The camera angle is telling you something that isn't quite correct.
 

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I can't find it, but I saw a video from a side goal line camera that showed it was more than just a little bump. The camera angle is telling you something that isn't quite correct.
Yes, the side angle makes the interference much more evident. When I first saw it as it occurred, I thought it was a ticky-tack call, but the other angle showed P.I. with much more clarity.
 
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