Maybe the correlation to winning improves if you just look at the FT% in the last two minutes as compared to the whole game.
Not sure how the idea of a team shooting 80% became part of this discussion. My original comment was about an individual player who was not contributing much on the court and who also was also shooting fairly poorly from the line. I still think if you have a player who can hit 80% or above it helps the team. Assuming the other team will attempt to foul your least successful free throw shooter it would help if they are contributing in other ways, controlling the rim, assists, blocks and steals or hitting an occasional 3 pointer.
Some of these team averages are amazingly good. I suspect that proves my point that having a regular player hitting in the 60s is kind of bad. That would bring the team average down quite a bit.Here is a spreadsheet with the data for NCAA D1 FT percentages.
NCAA Basketball Stats - NCAA BB Team Free Throw % | TeamRankings.com
NCAA Basketball free throw %, by team.www.teamrankings.com
60% is below average by about 1 of every 10 FTs. If Moore makes 3 more FTs out of his 93 attempts he is above the National average. You said we used to think anything below 80% was inferior. That is simply false unless you thought the vast majority of NCAA BB players were inferior. As ESPNJ pointed out the average last year was 71.7% which was above the norm. Maybe players are actually better FT shooters now.
The overall average is 68%. Most free throws would be taken by regular players, so that should skew the percentage to them (hard to foul a guy who isn’t on the floor). 60% is as far below average as 76% is above it.
Yeah, looking at the 300 or so teams, if they all had an average like Moore’s that would be pretty bad. My original post still holds. Your starters need to keep your team in the 70+ range, and individuals who can’t shoot 3s or gobble up rebounds need to shoot closer to 80% FT.
Be curious what coaches would say and whether or not their philosophy has changed over the last 50 years or so.
30 years ago was 1993, and the free throw average has been around 68% since then. The three point line was only introduced into NCAA basketball in 1986.
I could be looking through rose colored glasses, but I don’t think so. The back in the day I’m thinking of is late 80’s early 90’s era, and I am not talking about average free throw shooters. I think there was a strong correlation between elite 3 point shooting and elite free throw shooting at that time and I don’t think that correlation is as strong today as it was in that era. I don’t have any data to back it up, just my memory, so I could be wrong.
Generally guys who can't shoot 3 don't shoot FTs very well either, there is a correlation. As I said if Moore made 3 more out of 93 FTs he would be above the NCAA average. Find another fault, you are barking up the wrong tree here. Of the top 100 men's NCAA Division 1 FTs shooters last year 89 were guards. Wonder why?
Just for fun, check out the game’s best free throw shooters and who is considered #1.
I think you're definitely right that more players have gotten better at 3pt shooting than have gotten better at FT shooting.
Do we feel like all these players are or could be interchangeable at each position?CDS said he’d flip things in 180 days - based on roster additions, and having to overcome National reputation on the court with the results from the last two years, I give coach and his staff a grade “A” on the current roster. Very pleased, and see a team that has the “paper potential” to be a problem for the opposition on most nights. VERY excited for November and onward.
Current Roster: obviously not locked into a position or starter - this team may have multiple starters through season. If all back, that’s 11 deep for practice and games.
PG - Sturdivant/Abram
SG- Kelly*/Terry/Forrest
SF - Coleman/Reeves
PF - Gapare/Ndongo
C - Claude/ Dowuona
*Entered Draft, no agent.
Agree here. Kinda like lotto, has feeling of endless combinations.
