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Well then you're just proving more that this is on Hall. English should be in the bullpen in the top of that inning...
2019 NCAA Baseball Tournament - Atlanta Regional
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Squints
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You mean the guy playing 1B who wasn't even warmed up? Yea I have heard of him.
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Ah s***If we play auburn does that make it game 3 of a series? We might be in trouble then since we hate sweeps
TheSilasSonRising
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And is anyone in particular responsible for that?
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Honestly, I’m not paying attention to anyone who is blaming this on Hall unless they provide evidence of calling for English before the HR happened. And I’m sure some folks can prove it, I’m just too friggin tired of hearing about Hall all the time, retrospectively. In the moment I recognized the tough decision there and see merits both ways.
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The same guy that got this team to #3 overall seed.
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Was he playing first base? Honestly don’t know. How do we typically handle that?
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It has happened during the season, no?
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I am pretty sure you cannot leave the game and then come back to pitch.
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Usually he would warm up and we'd bring in a replacement if im not mistaken
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Top of the inning. He was up 5th. You should warm him up regardless.
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Hmmm ok maybe not. After watching several games this year i cant recall what we would do with English
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Look I get you're mad but think about it. If English is warming up in the bullpen he is coming into the game at the top of the inning. This has been established literally the entire season. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has watched the team this year. So what exactly are the options here?
Pull Thomas and have English pitch the 9th? Because that's what would have happened if he warmed up. And then English wouldn't be available tomorrow. Or have English warm up just in case, play 1B for a few batters because you can't take him out the game then put him back in, then put him on the mound cold in the middle of a jam?
The latter is just dumb. No manager or coach would do that. The former just seems like making a call with the benefit of hindsight. Which, unfortunately, you don't have the benefit of in the moment. What indication was there that Thomas was headed for trouble after 8 innings? None that I could see. He was cruising.
So you can warm up English and put him in the game in the top of the 9th which burns him for tomorrow or keep in Thomas who was rolling with a three run lead and have English for tomorrow. Those are your only scenarios that involve Tristan English. I don't think going with the second one is bad call. Did it work out? No. But that's the way it goes sometimes.
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I don't believe so. I could absolutely be wrong which would mean there's a lot of egg on my face right now but I don't remember it happening.
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I think it's a tough ask to have him warm up physically and mentally to pitch just in case he's needed, then put him back at 1B, then put him on the mound in a presumptive jam (because why else would take out Thomas). I've never seen that happen at this level. Probably unrealistic to expect something like that to happen. Particularly with a kid who's had major arm issues that to this day effect how and when he can be used.
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Did you look at what happened when he did it? It did not go well for English, Hall, or the Jackets?
3 Batters faced... 2 ER plus 3 inherited runners scored
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Interesting.
That was a long way back so no surprise I don't remember it. I wonder how the warm up worked there. But he clearly didn't pitch well at all so perhaps they moved away from it. He did have some arm issues since then so that could have played a role as well.
Have to look at a more box scores to see if it continued.