alagold
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 3,792
- Location
- Huntsville,Al
To me this is WAY to soon.We don't know really who is actually going to be even available for clem between the transfers ,quits and and injuries. I'll try the end of Aug.
I think we were the Coastal favorites with 8-10 wins expected if CPJ returns. Year 2 of Woodys defense with a lot of the right personnel in place. 3/4 great options at QB with experience on the OL. And elite specialists returning at all 3 positions.
I’m not saying CGC isn’t better for us long term, but we were set up nicely the next 3-4 years relative to the rest of the Coastal.
I tend to agree, but if we were sitting so pretty then why did Johnston leave?I think we were the Coastal favorites with 8-10 wins expected if CPJ returns. Year 2 of Woodys defense with a lot of the right personnel in place. 3/4 great options at QB with experience on the OL. And elite specialists returning at all 3 positions.
I’m not saying CGC isn’t better for us long term, but we were set up nicely the next 3-4 years relative to the rest of the Coastal.
I think we were the Coastal favorites with 8-10 wins expected if CPJ returns. Year 2 of Woodys defense with a lot of the right personnel in place. 3/4 great options at QB with experience on the OL. And elite specialists returning at all 3 positions.
I’m not saying CGC isn’t better for us long term, but we were set up nicely the next 3-4 years relative to the rest of the Coastal.
With or without the coaching change, we were graduating our starting QB and top 3 receivers and a lot of our rushing yardage from a team that struggled (but did have some injuries).
I’d have to look, but I didn’t see an improvement on defense during the year. I had high hopes for Woody, but I’d expect the defense to play faster as they learned the system, and I didn’t see that.
Woody’s defense at App State got “ok-ish” in year 2, and good by year 3. We didn’t seem to be learning faster
The bowl game really didn’t look good, and we made a bowl by the skin of our teeth. If we’d barely made it with young starters, I’d have been optimistic.
I hope I’m low and we win a lot more. I wasn’t thinking “2019-20 coastal champs” when I watched the last few games last year though.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saying we lost our QB us a little disingenuous. We return the guy who was expected to start before getting hurt, the guy who took over starting midway through the year, the guy who got snaps as a true frosh who is the best athlete on the team, and a 4* HS kid. QB depth chart was gonna be the best CPJ had ever had. Easily.
We returned plenty of receivers good enough to do what we need of them in that scheme. I’m not certain we wouldn’t have been better overall there with the emergence of Carter. But I’m probably a lot higher on him than most.
The overall talent level on defense is the best we’ve had since ‘08. That’s not saying a ton b/c we’ve been really lacking there. But the only place we’re lacking in quality depth is DL and Woody’s scheme is designed to mask that.
Couple that with VT crumbling, UNC in rebuild mode, and Miami being beatable and yeah, I think we were the favorites. UVA probably the closest competition.
But I think that also means we have a chance to win some games this year if Clayton can give us a boost on pass rush and the option principles translate.
Saying we lost our QB us a little disingenuous. We return the guy who was expected to start before getting hurt, the guy who took over starting midway through the year, the guy who got snaps as a true frosh who is the best athlete on the team, and a 4* HS kid. QB depth chart was gonna be the best CPJ had ever had. Easily.
We returned plenty of receivers good enough to do what we need of them in that scheme. I’m not certain we wouldn’t have been better overall there with the emergence of Carter. But I’m probably a lot higher on him than most.
The overall talent level on defense is the best we’ve had since ‘08. That’s not saying a ton b/c we’ve been really lacking there. But the only place we’re lacking in quality depth is DL and Woody’s scheme is designed to mask that.
Couple that with VT crumbling, UNC in rebuild mode, and Miami being beatable and yeah, I think we were the favorites. UVA probably the closest competition.
But I think that also means we have a chance to win some games this year if Clayton can give us a boost on pass rush and the option principles translate.
we had a defense ranked 111th by FEI and had 7 players who no one on the current roster beat out either through skills experience or injury. It didn’t really mask anything as we had literally the 130th ranked pass defense on third down. Due to lack of pressure. Or experience at the secondary as we had 4 new starters last year.I’m not sure you understood Woodys scheme then? We got him specifically to create pressure without having high end DL talent that we’ve struggled to recruit. He values undersized DL that can run rather than your traditional big uglies. Of course a defense relies on DLs. It’s football. But his scheme is designed to mask deficiencies there with unpredictable blitzing to create pressure. That’s literally why we hired him.
The question is whether we’ll be able to create a pass rush in CGCs scheme with the 2019 personnel. I’m not sure I know enough about his style to make an educated guess yet. Also have the big question mark with Clayton.
We had 2 frosh starters on defense last year in Swilling and Thomas. Carp was a SO starter last year. Juanyeh and Oliver figure to start as sophomores this year. Our LB/DB group is loaded man.
God... me toowould be nice to be 9-3 and get that last game , really getting sick of not winning at home in that game.
I’m not sure you understood Woodys scheme then? We got him specifically to create pressure without having high end DL talent that we’ve struggled to recruit. He values undersized DL that can run rather than your traditional big uglies. Of course a defense relies on DLs. It’s football. But his scheme is designed to mask deficiencies there with unpredictable blitzing to create pressure. That’s literally why we hired him.
The question is whether we’ll be able to create a pass rush in CGCs scheme with the 2019 personnel. I’m not sure I know enough about his style to make an educated guess yet. Also have the big question mark with Clayton.
We had 2 frosh starters on defense last year in Swilling and Thomas. Carp was a SO starter last year. Juanyeh and Oliver figure to start as sophomores this year. Our LB/DB group is loaded man.
I’m not sure why you think I don’t understand a scheme because I disagree with you.
There were several good articles on Woody’s defense last year that went over his time at AppState. The turnaround for him was finding a strong and athletic NT to anchor his defense. He didn’t get that player until year 3.
I think the need for that special NT means that it’s not just any recruit that can make Woody’s defense sing. And I don’t think we had that NT yet.
The comment about masking deficiencies with unpredictable blitzing could be applied to any aggressive blitzing defense, and there are a lot of them. Collins’ defense is noted for unpredictable blitzing.
Aside from Louisville, it’s hard to find a game from last year where we had a schematic advantage on defense. We did execute well against UVA, but I think that was mainly gutting the game out
Regarding being loaded, we did not have many all-ACC players last year. I’m encouraged by our strength and conditioning this off season, and I like our DB and LB coaching this year. I don’t know what the problem was last year, but any of the film rooms on defense last year showed a lot of misreads, hips turned the wrong way, and hesitation. There’s a lot of room for improvement, but some smart people think that with good technique coaching we can get a lot better.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Chris Landy sounds like a moron in my opinionChris Landy just said on 680 that anything more than 1 win this season is an upset. He said that the only team that we have more talent than on our schedule is the citadel...
Who the hell is Chris Landy?Chris Landy just said on 680 that anything more than 1 win this season is an upset. He said that the only team that we have more talent than on our schedule is the citadel...