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Amazing McElwain can go 10-4 in a down year in the SEC, barely end the year ranked (#25 in both polls), lose his last three games by a combined 97-24, and yet based on that single season be considered better than Richt. The only coaches UF has had that have a better track record than Richt...

Not as much arguing the good v great distinction as I am debating the people who think Richt had little to do with their success the last 15 years. Why I said in post 349 we may just be arguing semantics.

Yup, that's why I added this: "If you want to define a "good" coach as someone who averages a 10-3 season in the SEC, goes to a BCS game once every 5 years, is top 10 every other year, and plays in the conference championship at least a third of the time, then I think we are just arguing...

Which to me keeps him from being elite. I don't think it keeps him from being considered a great coach.

Comparing coaches at the same school is comparing apples to oranges? You can't get a better comparison. Of all coaches who were there more than 2-3 seasons, Donnan is behind only Richt, Dooley, and Cunningham in terms of win percentage. Goff was historically bad. But that's the point, you...

Nobody is claiming he's Jesus. How closely comparable is Miami to Wake? Something tells me he can do a lot more at Miami (65k stadium, all time win % of 63, 9 conference titles, 5 national championships, than Wake (31.5k stadium, all time win% of 41, 2 conference titles, - national...

Sorry but this post is just uninformed. Richt's overall win percentage is 74.5% - highest in school history. Fractions of a percent higher than Stegeman (who coached only 29 games). Three percent higher than Dooley. Those are the only 3 in the 70s. Richt's conference win percentage is only...

His AVERAGE record over his 15 year career is 10-3 (rounding to the nearest even number). More than half of those seasons (8 times) he finished in the top 10 of at least one major poll, if not both. One of the only arguments that he wasn't elite is that he played in only 3 BCS games over that...

I think it's pretty calculated too. Wish I could find the quote, but it's pretty clear he tailors his motivation style to each player. Some players need to be yelled at. Some players need the disappointed dad treatment. Some players you can just leave alone because they get it and will fix it.

Exactly this. He completed over 50% of his passes. TW scored 34 TDs in his two full years as a starter. He nearly had 1000 yards rushing in 2011 (only year he played full time). And he damn near single handedly won us the Clemson game in 2011 (when they were no. 5 in the country and TW set a...

Maybe then you should try to understand the conversation before you start your long diatribes. I originally pointed to all four games as examples of clutch play. You chose to ignore the 2010 game, and I called you out for it. The problem undermining all of your posts is that you expect TW to...

I love it when people like you have no idea what they are talking about. Interception in OT? There was no OT in the VT game. You probably don't remember this, since you don't seem to remember much accurately, but TW scored what should have been game tying TDs in both games. Against VT he...

And in a few instances he led us on what should have been a late game tying/leading drive, only to see special teams or defense give the game up at the end. The VT game and uga games he played in are great examples.

I think it was more just in spring. That's the whole reason he's enrolling early (to be there at practice, even if he can't play). I don't think he would do that if he didn't think he would play football again.

I don't think it's as much someone who can't run it, as it is we haven't had guys who can block it.

He's referring to a recruit. You can't talk about them until they sign.

How is it crazy? Cottrell hurt himself (torn ACL) last August. Those injuries typically take a year to recover, not counting freaks like Adrian Peterson. Not surprising you'd sit out practice within a year of that kind of injury.

I really hope we aren't doing number 2 on offense...

Blocking and consistency is all.

So they choose the gimmicky religion instead of the gimmicky offense? I kid, I kid...