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There are 39 4 & 5 star players in the state of Ga according to Rivals this year. We offered 26 of them. Make of that what you will.

This just isn’t accurate. O’Leary recruited very well in state.

That 20% number is not accurate. Sometimes acoaches look for excuses.

I agree good discussion. I believe the amount of kids capable of getting into GT is FAR above 10%.

You do realize Johnson offered over 70 4 & 5 stars this year alone don’t you? Please don’t confuse him not recruiting them well with their inability to get in. And if you trust CPJ in regards to APR, which we should, then their is no reason to believe there academic work would be any less than...

Good post. I see a return to the O’Leary days. I hope I am correct.

According to 24/7 our highest rated recruit is Huff at 73.

In all fairness, calling the 07 class the best class in GT history is simply wrong and devalues the program. It was arguably the 5th best class since 96 at the time. What Collins did was just return GT back to where they were recruiting regularly under O’Leary. Which would be a good thing if he...

I don’t believe anybody is saying Johnson is not a good coach are they?

You shouldn’t and I probably shouldn’t have typed that. Hope you have a great Saturday. Go Jackets.

You didn’t point out who BROUGHT in more NFL players did you?

Believe what you would like. I can’t control it. When you make comments like that however you certainly lose credibility going forward.

You are totally missing the point.

What? Because they were both top 100 players and CPJ didn’t bring in one in 11 years.

I would encourage you to get behind the new coach. I believe the debates on this board have taken some of the joy out of fandom for you. We have gone through stretches where we have recruited well and put people in the pros. No reason to run down our program to support s coach.

Yeah. I just did a quick search and his argument is disingenuous at best.

Very interesting. Do you have a breakdown on players?

We used to put more people into the NFL than we do now.

It used to be most of them. We are still offering a majority of the big time prospects so I would assume that hasn’t changed even though we have been unsuccessful in bringing them here.

Completely disagree that this is not a rebuilding project. The talent on this team is well below average in the ACC. Paul Johnson’s genius is the only thing that kep this program respectable.