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UNC is recruiting on a completely different level than Tech. They are what Collins claimed he could do here.

They lower expectations for him because all they have to hold onto is style over substance. That's all he's got - style. He's coaching at a perfect time in history where that works for a lot of people. Meanwhile, his substance is a mere 2 middling years at a G5 school - not mentioning the...

Comparing Collins to Ross in any manner should be a permaban offense across every single Georgia Tech message board. Anyone who tries to compare the two just expose themselves as the massive donkies they are. Ross came to Tech with a former pedigree as a Coach the Year and 3x conference...

There's very little else as useless in this world as a Geoff Collins weekly press conference. Pathetic.

You’ve said some pretty ignorant things during this thread derail. Pretty ballsy move to try to now act like we’re in the wrong here.

Which is everyone’s favorite? Coach Carter, Dangerous Minds, The Blind Side, or Boyz in the Hood?

You’ve seen too many movies.

Like you know what a gang sign looks like. Take a step off that throne, buddy.

You’re proving my point. Tech was (is) unable to pay competitive rates for top tier coaches and staff. The issue persists. While others may have former OCs/DCs and even former HCs in extreme cases in support roles, we have ex players hired on the cheap. Even our on field coaches are here at...

Ya. Exactly what this program needs, less money. :rolleyes:

No. GT stayed stagnant and everyone started throwing money around like it was going out of style. No one overtly subverted the organization by taking money away. However, the entire GTAA (including CPJ and he self admits it in the interview this thread is based) failed to take appropriate...

Paul Johnson from Day 1 wasn't able to hire the coaching staff he wanted because Tech was so cheap and unwilling/unable to pay for top tier assistants, and that was with an AD who was all-in with football. And the problem hasn't been fixed or addressed. If you think the coaching crew and...

The recruiting game of '07 and even just a few years later is night and day. The explosion of CFB resources, bells and whistles, etc. from the sheer avalanche of cash via TV deals and just sheer private competition makes it a completely new ball game. GT football fell laughingly behind. It's...

And what exactly does CGC want to sell? Here’s the list as I recall. An electric atmosphere at BDS competing and playing nationally relevant games? Yep. That happened. Be nationally ranked? Yep. Compete for ACC titles? Done and got the trophy is a closet to prove it. Put players in the...

I don't doubt you. More reason our own fans shouldn't be repeating such nonsense. CPJ speaks to this mistake, too, when he admits he (and the GTAA) completely dropped the ball capitalizing on '09 and '14. When Collins gets us back there, I'm giddy thinking about what sort of marketing and...

You're only highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of the two coaches. It's undeniable that Collins is a better recruiter than CPJ. That's not what we're talking about. The accusation is CPJ left the program in a worse position than when he arrived. For that to be true, CGC wouldn't be...

The Bobby Bowden analogy explains my point. You don't just look at the beginning and the end point and then completely ignore what happened between them when assessing whether a coach elevated a program. You mean to tell me CGC doesn't use that recent history to tell his story of what this...

Again...your logic is dumb.

According to some of these dudes' logic, Bobby friggin Bowden left FSU only slightly better than he found it since he walked into a 5 win team and left a 7 win team behind. Tech fans are some of the most miserable SOBs on the friggin planet.

Do you think it's easier or harder for CGC to recruit to his main message of "come here and make special happen in the ATL" with or without those achievements within the past 10+ years? What if he was trying to tell that story about getting back to success from the 1960s or decades before any...