This kind of stuff is way different from CPJ

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We were a very good QB away from it. That’s it. A very good QB and a good pass rush end and we’d definitely be. One to two players away is not far away. Those kind of players do make that much of a difference.

We were a good QB and an entire good defense from being able to compete with Duke and Pitt. We still weren't going to hang with Clemson and the mutts (i.e. run the table, which is every school not named Alabama's only shot at a CFP berth). We still won't initially under Coach Collins - gotta give him a few years to get his players in place.
 

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and sometimes it's not just plain ol' bad luck. Losing Lucas Johnson was...but not playing Tobias Oliver more often in 2018 wasn't. I also disagree that we were somehow due for another peak, just because it was cyclical. When we first peaked in 2014, we were annually beating the Dukes and Pitts of the conference. Those 2 specifically have now bumped ahead of us and were shutting down the offense unlike 2014. If anything, the trend was downwards.

oh well. water under the bridge or spilled milk or something. I personally like the new hire and steps he's taken so far to get us on the rise again and wish CPJ all the best in his retirement.

yep, it was NOT LUCK that we have lost over 30% of our classes before graduation from '12-'16. .A lot of talent went out the door for SOME reason.
 

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yep, it was NOT LUCK that we have lost over 30% of our classes before graduation from '12-'16. .A lot of talent went out the door for SOME reason.
This isn't too different from what you find at other programs. (You can check.) It is true that some players left voluntary (MM, for instance, and that large tranche of linemen that left before the 2014 season), but others suffered injuries that ultimately sidelined them or screwed up (Mills). We suffered a bit more from this because it was often people at positions where they fit very well and Tech has had a hard time with depth at those. This will be less the case in the future because we won't have to school the skill positions in how to run the TO for a year to get them to where they can see the field without costing us.
 

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This isn't too different from what you find at other programs. (You can check.) It is true that some players left voluntary (MM, for instance, and that large tranche of linemen that left before the 2014 season), but others suffered injuries that ultimately sidelined them or screwed up (Mills). We suffered a bit more from this because it was often people at positions where they fit very well and Tech has had a hard time with depth at those. This will be less the case in the future because we won't have to school the skill positions in how to run the TO for a year to get them to where they can see the field without costing us.
It's not just the numbers, but who we lost. We lost key guys who would have made a huge difference. And yes factory programs lose key guys, too, but they have unreal depth that next man up is little to no drop off. Not the case on the flats.
 

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GT Football is a sine curve not a straight line. It’s full of peaks and troughs. So yeah, he retired on a trough, but that doesn’t mean we weren’t due for another peak. Johnson suffered attrition to our best players/recruits more than once. Maybe a team like Clemson or Alabama or Georgia can survive that, GT can’t and never has been able to. Sometimes it’s just plain ‘ol bad luck that does you in.
We hated the boring comfort of 7-5, 7-5, 7-5, 7-5. We traded for 7-6, 11-3, 3-9, 9-4, etc. Then we hated that. We are an interesting group to say the least.
 

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This isn't too different from what you find at other programs. (You can check.) It is true that some players left voluntary (MM, for instance, and that large tranche of linemen that left before the 2014 season), but others suffered injuries that ultimately sidelined them or screwed up (Mills). We suffered a bit more from this because it was often people at positions where they fit very well and Tech has had a hard time with depth at those. This will be less the case in the future because we won't have to school the skill positions in how to run the TO for a year to get them to where they can see the field without costing us.

Actually I did when I originally did this study. dook in '12 I believe.They lost 20% of their class.That is not 30+ %. Depending on the guys that is a big difference. btw-dook has for some reason been beating with regularity.hmmmm
 

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Short term we probably did well. What Dodd didn’t foresee was the Braves and Falcons taking over the sports entertainment dollars and that we wouldn’t be able to keep on his course to be the “Notr Dame” of the south

Dodd was told directly what the impact would be and his, and John O’Neills, reaction was “we will ALWAYS sell our 40,000 season tickets.

As regards the SEC, we stopped selling thousands upon thousands of season tickets to long time buyers who changed their loyalty (and generations of those buyers family members). Almost killed GT athletics.
 
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