The ACC will delay the start of competition for all fall sports until at least Sept. 1

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I cant remember who wrote the article but someone wrote about college football recently and the need to just play and get through the season as healthy as possible. Being competitive isn’t really important this year. Seems like that should apply to other sports as well.
Who ever wrote that needs to put the crack pipe down.
 

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The MLB mini season is in serious jeopardy right now. When/if the football season begins it's going to be difficult to keep the coronavirus out of locker rooms if students return to campus. As baseball is learning case zero can be anyone on your team or the team you are playing.
 

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The MLB mini season is in serious jeopardy right now. When/if the football season begins it's going to be difficult to keep the coronavirus out of locker rooms if students return to campus. As baseball is learning case zero can be anyone on your team or the team you are playing.
Only three teams have active cases. Let 'er rip. (Tic)

The consequence of separating a fool from his follies is to breed a generation of fools. Too many ignore facts and so we get what we deserve.

College football will have way more virus risk than MLB. So let's see how much things change in the next few weeks for the MLB. I doubt we play this year.
 

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Only three teams have active cases. Let 'er rip. (Tic)

The consequence of separating a fool from his follies is to breed a generation of fools. Too many ignore facts and so we get what we deserve.

College football will have way more virus risk than MLB. So let's see how much things change in the next few weeks for the MLB. I doubt we play this year.
Nuke... curious who you believe in MLB is getting what they deserve?

The MLB plan was a tough row to hoe... I'll admit. The NHL & NBA will have better chance to finish their seasons.

I posted soon after the Miami outbreak. I was hopeful it would be a wakeup call & we'd look back & be able to give MLB some credit. Still hopeful (less so)... as things are obviously not good TODAY.

The tough row to hoe part was that 1) testing could at least keep up with problem; 2) the teams (players & staff) would do their part.

My sense is... neither #1 or #2 are happening. #1 is not possible to control...there is a lag in getting results. But #2 can be controlled. I doubt we'll ever know to what extent breaches in protocol are happening. Watching games... guys are definitely not avoiding contact (in some cases)

I just wonder if MLB has taken on the impossible OR there's been a rampant (doesn't take much) disregard on how teams are conducting themselves... or somewhere in between.



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Nuke... curious who you believe in MLB is getting what they deserve?
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I didn't say MLB, just meant the US in general. Elon Musk is 100% right that many Americans feel entitled and are complacent, especially in my view the states where we are now seeing the virus spike. (He targeted CA and NY and I'm broadening.)

In specific, people who attended political rallies or protested or went to COVID parties with no masks and got in close quarters get what they deserve IMHO. If they died or got lifelong disability, too damn bad. Unfortunately, most of those people don't get really sick but pass it on to others.

Really good facts in this https://www.hussmanfunds.com/comment/mc200730/ This is consistent with my views (I added bolding):

" Look. This thing has not suddenly gone to sleep. We’ve had 7000 U.S. fatalities from COVID-19 in just the past week. That’s more than twice the number of Americans lost on 9/11. We’ve already lost more Americans than the number of U.S. soldiers lost in World War I; more than in every war since World War II. For those who reveal their baseness of character by arguing that “it’s mostly old people,” I somehow can’t imagine they would have the same dismissive response if terrorists were lining up the same Americans and shooting them in the head. Must we really insist on protecting others only when the response involves hatred and bloodshed, but rail against every measure that involves reason and common humanity?"

One last thing I saw today. The local shipyard is projecting a spike 7-10 days after Labor Day. The college football season will be total toast if Americans over Labor Day are anything like the 4th of July. Want to bet that we change?
 

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@GTNavyNuke There’s lots of things we don’t get outraged about. 40k smokers per month die. More than C19. We’re not banning cigarettes. Secondhand smoke whacks another 3500 so it’s not just the smokers. We kill 55k per month with heart disease, 50k per month due to cancer, 25k per month due to obesity. As far as I know obese people and those with heart disease do not kill anyone else so they got that going for them. Smoking & obesity are probably the largest contributor to hear disease and cancer. 80-100k die from flu every year.

Nobody’s saying they don’t care about old people. Like the flu season, take precautions. My family’s doing it & it’s prudent. We shouldn’t shutter the entire country because older folks need to take more precautions, shouldn’t load nursing homes up with C19 patients, hey don’t pack the subways & buses and planes and trains, etc. Avoid large gatherings particularly if you are immunocompromised, weak health, etc. The fact this guidance is still not understood nearly 6 months in is amazing.

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The MLB mini season is in serious jeopardy right now. When/if the football season begins it's going to be difficult to keep the coronavirus out of locker rooms if students return to campus. As baseball is learning case zero can be anyone on your team or the team you are playing.
Especially when the team hangs out at the hotel bar without masks or social distancing like the Fishies did!
 

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I didn't say MLB, just meant the US in general. Elon Musk is 100% right that many Americans feel entitled and are complacent, especially in my view the states where we are now seeing the virus spike. (He targeted CA and NY and I'm broadening.)

In specific, people who attended political rallies or protested or went to COVID parties with no masks and got in close quarters get what they deserve IMHO. If they died or got lifelong disability, too damn bad. Unfortunately, most of those people don't get really sick but pass it on to others.

Really good facts in this https://www.hussmanfunds.com/comment/mc200730/ This is consistent with my views (I added bolding):

" Look. This thing has not suddenly gone to sleep. We’ve had 7000 U.S. fatalities from COVID-19 in just the past week. That’s more than twice the number of Americans lost on 9/11. We’ve already lost more Americans than the number of U.S. soldiers lost in World War I; more than in every war since World War II. For those who reveal their baseness of character by arguing that “it’s mostly old people,” I somehow can’t imagine they would have the same dismissive response if terrorists were lining up the same Americans and shooting them in the head. Must we really insist on protecting others only when the response involves hatred and bloodshed, but rail against every measure that involves reason and common humanity?"

One last thing I saw today. The local shipyard is projecting a spike 7-10 days after Labor Day. The college football season will be total toast if Americans over Labor Day are anything like the 4th of July. Want to bet that we change?
Thanks Nuke. I always appreciate your perspective on here. I did think you were addressing MLB specifically. Thanks for clarifying. Although.. it appears the Marlins (probably others) are learning a lesson. MLB is not dead yet. These next 2 days will decide. And the Cardinals situation is the tipping point.

 

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Smoking is a behavior you engage in that generally affects only you. The risks of smoking are not equivalent to COVID-19. Not at all.
So is going out and contracting Covid. If you’re vulnerable stay tf home and you won’t get it. It’s very simple if you don’t overthink it.
 

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Smoking is a behavior you engage in that generally affects only you. The risks of smoking are not equivalent to COVID-19. Not at all.
Yep. Not equivalent. Let’s throw alcohol in there as well. They have multi multi multi million dollar lobbies as well. Who’s starting that covid lobby?
 

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I don’t blame em. Craving those Louwill Lemon Pepper BBQ over here as well.
It is truly shocking that William's story wasn't what it turned out to be. This must be one fine establishment... messing with both the MLB & NBA here in pandemic times.

More bad news... this place is less than 2 miles from GT campus. 😳
 

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"Who’s starting that covid lobby?"
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Well for a start I would say the SEC and the T A&M lobby!
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This is from the MLB COVID-19 safety protocol:

“In order for a 2020 season to be conducted safely, Covered Individuals must exercise care while away from Club facilities to avoid situations in which the risk of contracting the virus is elevated, such as participating in activities involving large groups or indoor activities in which people are in close proximity to one another (e.g., crowded restaurants, bars, clubs). MLB will not formally restrict the activities of Covered Individuals when they are away from Club facilities, but will expect the Covered Individuals on each Club to ensure that they all act responsibly.” [“Covered Individuals” are players, coaches, managers, team officials and etc.]

In other words, MLB players, etc. are on the honor system. That's the protocol for college football except the college players will be going to class, dining facilities, etc with other students who are not following the protocol.

Maybe P5 football will last for more than two weeks, but it probably won't.
 

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This is from the MLB COVID-19 safety protocol:

“In order for a 2020 season to be conducted safely, Covered Individuals must exercise care while away from Club facilities to avoid situations in which the risk of contracting the virus is elevated, such as participating in activities involving large groups or indoor activities in which people are in close proximity to one another (e.g., crowded restaurants, bars, clubs). MLB will not formally restrict the activities of Covered Individuals when they are away from Club facilities, but will expect the Covered Individuals on each Club to ensure that they all act responsibly.” [“Covered Individuals” are players, coaches, managers, team officials and etc.]

In other words, MLB players, etc. are on the honor system. That's the protocol for college football except the college players will be going to class, dining facilities, etc with other students who are not following the protocol.

Maybe P5 football will last for more than two weeks, but it probably won't.
Ok... so, MLB got back together for 'summer camp' on 7/1. That's 35 days of the "honor system". For sake of argument...without picking apart if the honor system was a good idea or not... is 28 teams with no significant issue after 35 days good or not? Is the system working ... or not?
 
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