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  1. KeystoneJacket

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    Forgot about the game tonight. Just saw the score on twitter. Wow.
     
  2. Techster

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  3. tbglover

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    Most kids were Memphis kids but then there was Jelan Kendrick who was an McDonald's All American from Wheeler and Will Barton from B-More so he scored some outside gems. Too bad he's been finishing 2nd and 3rd for kids since he's been here.

    It doesn't take much to get McCamish rocking. Just need the team to win some such as in his 1rst season. The X's and O's do need to improve cause so far the offense has been sub par this year.

    I was at the game tonight and I had to put my phone in my pocket for fear that I'd break it out of frustration.
     
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    What we have here is what happens when a "recruiter" with questionable game-day coaching skill faces the reality of recruiting to Tech.

    Glad we're not going that way with football.

    - Drunk Peacone
     
  5. slugboy

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    I've watched other teams, like Michigan, run exactly the same offense. It's got 5 guys standing around the arc, not moving much, waiting on a guy to pass them the ball, same as us. The difference is that we shoot 29% on a good day (and 26% last night), and Michigan is shooting 39%. They played a similar caliber team and won 70-62 (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401082455). I've seen them run that offense and get 50% from outside the arc, and then Michigan looks good. At 39% 3pt%, Michigan looks pedestrian. At 29%, you've got us.

    I'm not sure, if we had Michigan's talent and upperclassmen, that I'd want to run the same offense. But our best shooters would struggle to get off the bench for them, and that's a sharpshooter offense. We don't have sharpshooters.

    This is not to say we played good defense--we didn't. I see why some of our opponents say we don't look well coached. I don't think we do.

    We're square pegs, and that's a round hole offense
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    (Except our coaches don't pry the lid off).
     
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  6. MikeJacket1967

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    Wow what a horrible game:banghead::vomit:
     
  7. kg01

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    Good points. Our shooting (or lack thereof) just exacerbates everything. Still, in the absence of knockdown shooters, maybe we should explore other ways to attack offensively? I mean, shooters can be 'made' but they're mostly born. How much better do we expect the guys to collectively get?

    Emphasis on collectively. I imagine certain ones will progress but this shouldn't be a scenario where double-digit guys have to work for years to simply be passable as shooters.
     
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    We recruit these guys and they look like they have some talent, yet we put them in a white and gold jersey and they hover around the 300/351 or worse in 3pt % and have no ability to create their own shot inside the arc. The bad shooting was a consistent problem with CBG’s teams as well. There’s no way our talent should be on par or below an average mid major. We’re clearly doing something wrong as a program. Aren’t we using some advanced technological BS to improve shooting? Maybe we need to offload that crap to Kennesaw State.
     
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    The team, outside of Jose is just lazy damnit... they dont create their own shots and just stand around waiting for an open 3 look. Alston does okay sometimes at getting to the rim, but I blame this all on Coaching.... CJP wanted us to shoot 3 balls at a 40% clip? Okay well what do you expect guys to do? And lastly, we were told we would see a faster offense but it's the same, slow pace. That's why we only score 60 Pts a game
     
  10. ChasonBaller

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    There is a lot that needs to be fixed but #1 for me is the lineup and bench rotation. It makes no sense at all....
     
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  11. kg01

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    Khalid. Moore. Needs. Moore. Minutes.
     
  12. THWG

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    Dude needs to be starting. I want the lineup to be Alvarado, Banks, Haywood, Moore, and Devoe.
     
  13. lauraee

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    Please put Khalid Moore in!
     
  14. kg01

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    Pretty much. For going-forward purposes, that makes sense anyway.

    Moore is really impressive from an IQ standpoint. Makes general FR mistakes, which should be expected, but he just ... moves properly where others kinda are just out there.
     
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  15. slugboy

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    Advanced stats, sorted by "Win Shares"

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    Rk              Player   PER  TS% eFG% 3PAr  TRB%   WS   WS/40  OBPM DBPM   BPM
    1        Jose Alvarado  16.8 .541 .505 .490   5.1  1.2    .168   2.9  2.5   5.4
    2       Brandon Alston  16.5 .607 .557 .343   5.6  1.0    .178   1.9  1.6   3.5
    3      James Banks III  21.6 .614 .614 .000  19.7  1.0    .207   0.4  8.1   8.5
    4    Curtis Haywood II  17.0 .596 .578 .724   6.4  0.9    .189   4.2  1.6   5.8
    5        Michael Devoe  12.0 .509 .433 .462   6.0  0.7    .123  -1.5  6.0   4.4
    6         Khalid Moore  20.4 .702 .632 .158   8.7  0.6    .250   3.7  3.8   7.5
    7         Moses Wright  12.6 .467 .463 .185  10.8  0.5    .115  -3.7  2.9  -0.8
    8      Abdoulaye Gueye  13.4 .456 .400 .029  13.2  0.4    .126  -4.3  7.9   3.6
    9    Sylvester Ogbonda  14.1 .478 .417 .000  18.2  0.2    .159  -1.6  3.9   2.3
    10   Shembari Phillips   4.7 .481 .433 .433   6.5  0.2    .058  -4.9  2.6  -2.2
    11           Evan Cole   7.0 .381 .125 .250   8.8  0.1    .082  -6.9  4.2  -2.8
    12         Evan Jester -29.4           .000  19.0  0.0   -.480 -35.6 -2.8 -38.3
    13     Shaheed Medlock                  0.0   0.0  0.0    .063  -4.6  3.1  -1.4
    14        Malachi Rice -29.6 .000 .000 .000   0.0  0.0   -.286 -22.8 -4.0 -26.8
    15         Avi Schafer                 23.9  38.0  0.0    .331  12.6 -4.3   8.3
    16    Kristian Sjolund -10.1 .279 .188 .875   9.5 -0.1   -.080 -11.3 -0.3 -11.7
    
    Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
    Generated 12/18/2018.

    Here it is sorted by Box Plus Minus (with some walk-ons removed, because they aren't going to start):
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    Rk              Player   PER  TS% eFG% 3PAr TRB%  TOV%  OWS DWS   WS   WS/40  OBPM DBPM   BPM
    1      James Banks III  21.6 .614 .614 .000 19.7  21.7  0.4 0.7  1.0    .207   0.4  8.1   8.5
    3         Khalid Moore  20.4 .702 .632 .158  8.7  13.5  0.3 0.3  0.6    .250   3.7  3.8   7.5
    4    Curtis Haywood II  17.0 .596 .578 .724  6.4  11.0  0.4 0.5  0.9    .189   4.2  1.6   5.8
    5        Jose Alvarado  16.8 .541 .505 .490  5.1  14.4  0.4 0.7  1.2    .168   2.9  2.5   5.4
    6        Michael Devoe  12.0 .509 .433 .462  6.0  23.2  0.0 0.7  0.7    .123  -1.5  6.0   4.4
    7      Abdoulaye Gueye  13.4 .456 .400 .029 13.2  19.4  0.0 0.4  0.4    .126  -4.3  7.9   3.6
    8       Brandon Alston  16.5 .607 .557 .343  5.6  14.9  0.5 0.6  1.0    .178   1.9  1.6   3.5
    9    Sylvester Ogbonda  14.1 .478 .417 .000 18.2  19.3  0.0 0.1  0.2    .159  -1.6  3.9   2.3
    10        Moses Wright  12.6 .467 .463 .185 10.8  11.4  0.0 0.5  0.5    .115  -3.7  2.9  -0.8
    12   Shembari Phillips   4.7 .481 .433 .433  6.5  27.5 -0.2 0.4  0.2    .058  -4.9  2.6  -2.2
    13           Evan Cole   7.0 .381 .125 .250  8.8  14.5  0.0 0.1  0.1    .082  -6.9  4.2  -2.8
    14    Kristian Sjolund -10.1 .279 .188 .875  9.5  30.9 -0.1 0.1 -0.1   -.080 -11.3 -0.3 -11.7
    15        Malachi Rice -29.6 .000 .000 .000  0.0   0.0  0.0 0.0  0.0   -.286 -22.8 -4.0 -26.8
    
    Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
    Generated 12/18/2018.

    BPM likes Moore a lot. BPM may make some sense here.
     
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  16. ChasonBaller

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  17. ChasonBaller

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    Same here.
     
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  18. THWG16

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    0-3 is a really good possibility
     
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  19. lauraee

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    The old eyeball test says the same.;)
     
  20. slugboy

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    Win Share for 40 minutes really likes Moore. It also thinks AD should get more playing time and be first off of the bench, and that we aren't seeing enough Haywood:
    (Hope not too too far off topic, but it doesn't look like Advanced Stats likes the Alston/Alvarado combo all that much. I wonder if a Banks/Moore/Gueye/Alvarado/Haywood lineup would have been a good one last night)
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    Rk              Player   PER  TS% eFG% 3PAr TRB%  TOV%  OWS DWS   WS   WS/40  OBPM DBPM   BPM
    1      James Banks III  21.6 .614 .614 .000 19.7  21.7  0.4 0.7  1.0    .207   0.4  8.1   8.5
    2         Khalid Moore  20.4 .702 .632 .158  8.7  13.5  0.3 0.3  0.6    .250   3.7  3.8   7.5
    3    Curtis Haywood II  17.0 .596 .578 .724  6.4  11.0  0.4 0.5  0.9    .189   4.2  1.6   5.8
    4        Jose Alvarado  16.8 .541 .505 .490  5.1  14.4  0.4 0.7  1.2    .168   2.9  2.5   5.4
    5        Michael Devoe  12.0 .509 .433 .462  6.0  23.2  0.0 0.7  0.7    .123  -1.5  6.0   4.4
    6      Abdoulaye Gueye  13.4 .456 .400 .029 13.2  19.4  0.0 0.4  0.4    .126  -4.3  7.9   3.6
    7       Brandon Alston  16.5 .607 .557 .343  5.6  14.9  0.5 0.6  1.0    .178   1.9  1.6   3.5
    8    Sylvester Ogbonda  14.1 .478 .417 .000 18.2  19.3  0.0 0.1  0.2    .159  -1.6  3.9   2.3
    9         Moses Wright  12.6 .467 .463 .185 10.8  11.4  0.0 0.5  0.5    .115  -3.7  2.9  -0.8
    10   Shembari Phillips   4.7 .481 .433 .433  6.5  27.5 -0.2 0.4  0.2    .058  -4.9  2.6  -2.2
    11           Evan Cole   7.0 .381 .125 .250  8.8  14.5  0.0 0.1  0.1    .082  -6.9  4.2  -2.8
    12    Kristian Sjolund -10.1 .279 .188 .875  9.5  30.9 -0.1 0.1 -0.1   -.080 -11.3 -0.3 -11.7
    13        Malachi Rice -29.6 .000 .000 .000  0.0   0.0  0.0 0.0  0.0   -.286 -22.8 -4.0 -26.8
    
    Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
    Generated 12/18/2018.
     

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