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All of life seems more mercenary in recent years. IIWII.Mercenary football is just not for me.
All of life seems more mercenary in recent years. IIWII.Mercenary football is just not for me.
Depends on the coach's decision. I would say in most cases coaches decide to move on and will not take him back.Some things I just don't pay much attention to...like the rules of the transfer portal. I mostly wait until the music stops and then look to see who is sitting in our chairs.
So, I'm genuinely clueless as to how this works: if a kid "enters the transfer portal", does that mean A) I'm not coming back next year, period, or B) I'm willing to entertain offers from other schools?
A) means they are gone. End of story.
B) means they are probably gone but they might stick around if they don't get a better offer.
Perhaps scouts have zero biases (I find that far-fetched). That being said, the scouts collect data; the decisions are made by the Coaches, GMs and Owners. I guess they don't have any biases either.This is an ignorant comment (no offense intended. Ignorance is just a lack of knowledge).
NFL scouts watch everything, equally. They know all the coaches. ALL the coaches. When they’re working, they watch film on players not games. Whether a kid is P4, SEC, SUN, A10, whatever, they know how to evaluate talent by watching players play, regardless of the competition. They get the film from the schools. Schools have every play for each player isolated, so scouts can get very specific with players.
I know one scout that refuses to watch games live. He learns more about a kid from film and he’s not biased by the hype of the game.
That would be my stance. Key is in the “control what you can control” camp. Well, if a player decides he’s going to spend 20 days entertaining offers from other schools while I’m practicing and prepping for a game then he’s gone and I’m looking my for someone to fill that spot. If once everything shakes out there is still a spot and he wants to come back, then maybe I consider it…but only if it means I don’t have to go back on a promise I made to someone else.Depends on the coach's decision. I would say in most cases coaches decide to move on and will not take him back.
Yep. Now a Jamyr Gibbs type talent would be a special case but Eric does not quite fit that mold and is more easily replaced.That would be my stance. Key is in the “control what you can control” camp. Well, if a player decides he’s going to spend 20 days entertaining offers from other schools while I’m practicing and prepping for a game then he’s gone and I’m looking my for someone to fill that spot. If once everything shakes out there is still a spot and he wants to come back, then maybe I consider it…but only if it means I don’t have to go back on a promise I made to someone else.
Bias might exist. However, in the NFL getting things wrong costs wins and jobs. As much as a former GT player might like GT and dislike the mutts, he would not ignore a mutt nor pick a GT player based on bias. Doing so would end his career in the NFL very quickly.Perhaps scouts have zero biases (I find that far-fetched). That being said, the scouts collect data; the decisions are made by the Coaches, GMs and Owners. I guess they don't have any biases either.
Yep. The incentives are to get the right player not reinforce a prejudice.Bias might exist. However, in the NFL getting things wrong costs wins and jobs. As much as a former GT player might like GT and dislike the mutts, he would not ignore a mutt nor pick a GT player based on bias. Doing so would end his career in the NFL very quickly.
With the increase to 105 scholarships I suspect all teams will have room for very good players to come back. I doubt that many actually come back once they start taking official visits.That would be my stance. Key is in the “control what you can control” camp. Well, if a player decides he’s going to spend 20 days entertaining offers from other schools while I’m practicing and prepping for a game then he’s gone and I’m looking my for someone to fill that spot. If once everything shakes out there is still a spot and he wants to come back, then maybe I consider it…but only if it means I don’t have to go back on a promise I made to someone else.
I was wondering if a lot of PWO kids would stay within the 105 number and go on full scholarship.With the increase to 105 scholarships I suspect all teams will have room for very good players to come back. I doubt that many actually come back once they start taking official visits.
Yeah, scouts are biased towards coaches (not just head coaches) they know and trust. They call people they know who know certain kids. None of these people care what school a kid went to.Perhaps scouts have zero biases (I find that far-fetched). That being said, the scouts collect data; the decisions are made by the Coaches, GMs and Owners. I guess they don't have any biases either.
So much this. If they know that Iowa or Pitt develops good D linemen, they'll call the coaches, and they'll look at the film all the time. If the coach says "we have a special one at safety", they'll take an extra look.Yeah, scouts are biased towards coaches (not just head coaches) they know and trust. They call people they know who know certain kids. None of these people care what school a kid went to.
So on point. I’ve seen this many times over the years and I can go all the way back to uga and a DL player named George Patton in the 60s. He had good numbers and good press and was a fan favorite. Tried out for pros and didn’t make it. Turned out that what made him good in college was an underclassman on the DL with him named Bill Stanfill who had a long career with the Miami Dolphins.So much this. If they know that Iowa or Pitt develops good D linemen, they'll call the coaches, and they'll look at the film all the time. If the coach says "we have a special one at safety", they'll take an extra look.
When Tenuta was here, we won 8 or sometimes 9 games, but our defensive players got drafted. Scouts knew they were well taught.
There's also a problem with a loaded roster. If you have interior DL getting double teamed, the edge gets more sacks and tackles. If you don't look carefully, you think the prospect is the edge, when it's the DT and NT. This happens in the pros a lot, where a team signs a sack specialist for a ton of money and they do nothing because the other guy brought the magic.
For what it is worth, a lot of play college players have the "Professional Athlete" moniker on their Twitter bio.Just looked at his X page and still has T all on it. But his occupation is listed as "Professional Athlete". Just interesting.