Quarterback for next year

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Techster said:
Here's another interesting write up I found from last summer's recruiting camp circuit. It's interesting in that 3 QBs who will play a roll in GT's future were all involved: GT signees Sims and Gleason, and UGA signee Beck (who we recruited as well). Sims put on a performance earned the MVP honors for that region and an Elite 11 invite, Beck earned an Elite 11 invite. Gleason had a strong showing, but failed to win an Elite 11 invite.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2019/2/25/18239204/florida-qb-recruits-2020

Of course, 7v7 without interior line play is far different from real football when you have to make quick decisions with LBs and DLs that want to rip your head off.

Here's a worthwhile video to watch. Highlights of Beck VS Sims as their teams played each other last season. Beck came out ahead on the scoreboard, but watching the highlights, it appears Sims was the more efficient QB with some nice throws. Beck had a lot of dump off throws...and didn't make any throws that wow'ed you for someone of his reputation. For the game, Beck was 15 of 33 for 177 yards and Sims was 12 of 21 for 167 yards.



BTW, Beck actually struggled this year...to the point that UGA made a run at 'Bama's QB recruit the last month of the early recruiting season.
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Sims vs Beck
Rivals in little league
Rivals in pop warner
Rivals in high school
Rivals in college

Wow. They are tied to each other.
 

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Boaty1 said:
In many ways I think the perception of our program is stronger out of state than in. I think there is an angle we can play for Atlanta kids but recruiting more than 20 miles OTP will be tough in state.
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Collins has done a great job of changing that perception in state, even with a losing record, GT is a destination. Now they have to win.
 
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I think that we were so caught up on trying to execute the offense, things like QB footwork, mechanics, pass progressions and defensee identification was missed. Too much to do, at one time. I really hope that the OC works with our QBs on how to do the above.
 
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CDP does prefer to run the RPO as his bread and butter. My issue with CDP is that he doesn’t seem like the kind of OC who is going to take whatever players he has and make the best of their talents. And that’s true of many OCs who are very successful with the players they need to execute their system. So I hope we get guys in here fast that can run his system well because from what I saw of his offense at Coastal Carolina it seems pretty effective. Here’s a link to a video of them playing NDSU (whose QB was Carson Wentz) in the 2014 FCS quarterfinals

The truly great OCs like Ralph Friedgen are able to maximize what can be done with the players he has. He has won with guys like Boomer Esiason, Stan Gelbaugh, Stan Humphries (Chargers), Frank Reich, and then with Shawn Jones, Joe Hamilton, and Goose. All of those guys were talented but my point was that they represent several different kinds of QBs from the statue in the pocket to the mobile pocket passer to the multi-dimensional Shawn Jones and Joe Ham to whatever you want to call Goose’s style.


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The Coastal tape shows the ol is often in wide gaps w 1 rb. I wonder why we didnt try the wide gaps since our returning ol we schooled in wide gaps.

Wide gaps and long ol with 4 wide outs really opens up the middle making qb reads easier.

I think that was an error of omission.
 
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jojatk said:
CDP does prefer to run the RPO as his bread and butter. My issue with CDP is that he doesn’t seem like the kind of OC who is going to take whatever players he has and make the best of their talents. And that’s true of many OCs who are very successful with the players they need to execute their system. So I hope we get guys in here fast that can run his system well because from what I saw of his offense at Coastal Carolina it seems pretty effective. Here’s a link to a video of them playing NDSU (whose QB was Carson Wentz) in the 2014 FCS quarterfinals

The truly great OCs like Ralph Friedgen are able to maximize what can be done with the players he has. He has won with guys like Boomer Esiason, Stan Gelbaugh, Stan Humphries (Chargers), Frank Reich, and then with Shawn Jones, Joe Hamilton, and Goose. All of those guys were talented but my point was that they represent several different kinds of QBs from the statue in the pocket to the mobile pocket passer to the multi-dimensional Shawn Jones and Joe Ham to whatever you want to call Goose’s style.


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True, and it points up the difference between coaching in the pros and coaching in college. In the pros, you can just draft the type of players who will be a good fit for your offense. In college (unless you're a factory), you get the best players you can and find out the best way to bring their talents out.

Also, you have to recruit, not just draft. Another reason why coaching college football is a lot more complicated than coaching in the pros, IMO.
 

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jojatk said:
CDP does prefer to run the RPO as his bread and butter. My issue with CDP is that he doesn’t seem like the kind of OC who is going to take whatever players he has and make the best of their talents. And that’s true of many OCs who are very successful with the players they need to execute their system. So I hope we get guys in here fast that can run his system well because from what I saw of his offense at Coastal Carolina it seems pretty effective. Here’s a link to a video of them playing NDSU (whose QB was Carson Wentz) in the 2014 FCS quarterfinals

The truly great OCs like Ralph Friedgen are able to maximize what can be done with the players he has. He has won with guys like Boomer Esiason, Stan Gelbaugh, Stan Humphries (Chargers), Frank Reich, and then with Shawn Jones, Joe Hamilton, and Goose. All of those guys were talented but my point was that they represent several different kinds of QBs from the statue in the pocket to the mobile pocket passer to the multi-dimensional Shawn Jones and Joe Ham to whatever you want to call Goose’s style.


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Exactly! You summarized it in writing much better than I could have written it.

It’s the principal reason why I opined in my earlier comments that Patenaude’s offense appeared to me to be more of a “smorgasbord” of offensive plays which we saw over the past season, rather than a “system” such as what we had observed in the past during the Ralph Friedgen and Paul Johnson years.

Upon further reflection, during the past season I believe Patenaude may have been “in search of a system” centering around the three different quarterbacks he tried as starters, from Lucas Johnson to Tobias Oliver to James Graham. And for each of these starters he attempted to design different sets of offensive plays based on what he perceived to be the three quarterbacks’ respective strengths and weaknesses.

This season-long experimentation—through the trials and errors of starting three different quarterbacks—was, indeed, made much more difficult because of the problems that were encountered with the offensive linemen along the way (injuries, inconsistency, position changes, etc.).

Hopefully all of these problems can be ironed out and a much better offensive “system” can be installed in the next year—or two or three. (It’s more likely to happen by the third year, I think.)

It’s going to be very interesting to watch because Patenaude now has five quarterbacks on the squad to choose from: Graham, Johnson, Yates, Sims, and Gleason. So I expect the experimentation—i.e., the “smorgasbord”—to continue.
 
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Or maybe his coach was just a dumba$$? I’m not writing off Yates btw, just not drinking the koolaide on him like quite a few on here...
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Or maybe coach knew this year would be a disaster with whoever we played and he wanted Yates for 4 years with a better OL? We will not know how good Yates will be but I think with his one year in our system and what I have heard from his followers in HS, he will be hard to beat out at the start of the season. Anyway, it will be fun to watch the competition and may the best QB win.

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jojatk said:
CDP does prefer to run the RPO as his bread and butter. My issue with CDP is that he doesn’t seem like the kind of OC who is going to take whatever players he has and make the best of their talents. And that’s true of many OCs who are very successful with the players they need to execute their system. So I hope we get guys in here fast that can run his system well because from what I saw of his offense at Coastal Carolina it seems pretty effective. Here’s a link to a video of them playing NDSU (whose QB was Carson Wentz) in the 2014 FCS quarterfinals

The truly great OCs like Ralph Friedgen are able to maximize what can be done with the players he has. He has won with guys like Boomer Esiason, Stan Gelbaugh, Stan Humphries (Chargers), Frank Reich, and then with Shawn Jones, Joe Hamilton, and Goose. All of those guys were talented but my point was that they represent several different kinds of QBs from the statue in the pocket to the mobile pocket passer to the multi-dimensional Shawn Jones and Joe Ham to whatever you want to call Goose’s style.


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Spot On I agree.... CDP thus far at Georgia Tech doesn’t seem like the kind of OC who is going to take whatever players he has and make the best of their talents. So he has a nationally ranked class (2020) so he better do better this season or we will have to find another OC for 2021!!!
 
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After watching more tape and reading more about Jeff Sims in the All-American bowl, he may be closer to taking the starting role than I previously thought. His deep ball is already pretty good, and his zone read decision-making is pretty solid. He needs a little more polish on his short passes, but he seems to get the ball to a catchable place most of the time. If he can go through his progressions and improve his touch, he really could elevate the whole offense. If he has a good spring and summer, shoring up those areas, I think the starting job is his.
 
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Jmonty71 said:
After watching Sims tonight? Would not surprise me to see him start a game or two.
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I think he could be a 4 year starter. If we waste one of his years by putting him in for 2-3 plays in meaningless games I won’t know what to say. We either need to have him play all game for 4 games, then get 4 seasons out of him. Or we need to play him from the time he’s ready and the rest of the season.

Alternative #2 is Graham beats him out. Well, that would certainly be something. It has been a long time since GT had a good starter and a good backup. Maybe Lil’ Joe & Goose? Honestly back then I’m not sure anyone thought Goose was a capable replacement. I know I was wrong.
 
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