IronJacket7
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Then I think we are in agreement with the fact that athletics aren't important to the school and this is the very root cause of the issues we discuss here... things, good or bad, always start at the top of an organization and never in the middle. If I were a FB coach, GT would not be a place that I would want to coach at nor would it be a place that I would mind being fired from. It's indifference that is killing the program....not the last 7-8 coaches we have had, most of whom were/are good coaches.
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I am going to tell Peterson next time I have a chance that my endowment will come after we win at least 9 games in FB. I have the utmost respect for my school and how it helped mold me into a successful career but I fear GT is slowly becoming a bottom feeder in FB and BB. There is no single reason for the athletic decline we are witnessing in FB and BB, but things need to change and while $ is one factor, it is not the only reason. For example, paying PJ another $1M per year won't change a thing. Paying assistant coaches more would help but only if he hires different people which is probably unlikely anyway. Everyone still points to 2014 but for several key turnovers by our opponents, we would have lost 4 games that we won (VT, GS, Clemson, and UGA. We got into a bowl game one year with a losing record. We have consistently recruited in the middle to bottom half of our own conference so should we expect to out-coach every team in the conference? If we are able to up spending, then it should be on increasing the recruiting budget and if that doesn't work. then change coaches.
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I know you aren't talking about football much in this post but you used teams that we as well had key turnovers in or we could have beat them worse lol, it's just part of football. Remember the TD UGA ran back after JET had been stood up on the goal line? That should have been blown dead and remember the pump fake fumble by JET late in the game? That's a two score difference right there. And I'm not so sure we would have lost to Clemson or GSU maybe VT, but that's the only one I can say could have beaten us.
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I love when people look at the whole record. That is a very non-emotional way to examine records. The only thing the above skipped is APR, which would add an exclamation point to the data. I would agree that 3 seasons at 3 and 9 would be a bad trend, but we are not there.
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I can see where you are coming from, lets not let the program come to the point where we look at the schedule and take for granted we will lose to UGAG, Mia,VT and Clemson. We can have those expectations with almost any coach, that is why a change does not scare me. As far as National respect, we are losing respect in our own backyard, the state of Ga.
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Interesting info here from someone within the program:
1. I completely agree with the fact that GT should be better than they are, but it's not something you can put completely on coach Johnson.
2. I think you have to look at how the landscape of college football has changed since he's come in. Between the years of 2005-2008 let's say who was really running college football. Alabama was trash, Clemson was a 7-5 program, VT was trash, UNC was trash, Duke was horrible, Auburn was trash and Tennessee was 7-5. That leaves the schools out west like USC, Cal, maybe Texas around that time. The only real schools running the south then was FSU, maybe Miami, and UGA. What I'm saying is that evened the playing field as far as recruiting goes somewhat. Now you have all those schools coming into the southeast especially Atlanta to recruit the cream of the crop. So when you're a 16-18 year old kid making that decision, you aren't necessarily thinking 40 years down the road which gets into his comments about having what the other schools have.
3. Everything that has happened to help GT in recruiting for the past 6 years Johnson did on his own. Went personally to the donor that built the indoor and asked him for the money. He wrote a check, after that the administration told Johnson he could no longer go directly to donors for donations, it had to go through proper channels. Johnson disobeyed and went to another donor to have the locker room redone, after they had the blueprints done the donor promised to double whatever money was raised. Johnson put up 1 million of his own money for the project. Donor died 3 days later. Have you seen clemson's new football facility? Their Nike uniforms? Their stadium sold out playing against South Carolina State? Everything about the teams GT recruits against is better. And kids see that.
4. Also there is no help from the school in terms of getting recruits. The NCAA has the cost of attendance checks that they give to the student athletes and it factors in things that the kids have to do in order to go to school there (travel, clothing, electronics etc.) GT's almost 2x as low as everybody else that we also recruit against. We both played with guys that came from nothing that were ballers. Dogs. And if I'm a college coach at Tennessee and I come in and say you'll get a check for 3500 every semester that is your money, and then I coach at GT and say you'll get a check for 1500 every semester, but in 40 years you'll be a millionaire. Some kids get it, but majority take that upfront money.
5. I think it would be interesting to see what Pj could do with full support. If he has an even playing field and still loses then he's gotta go. But can't expect him to win in chess if he's playing with checkers.
1. I completely agree with the fact that GT should be better than they are, but it's not something you can put completely on coach Johnson.
2. I think you have to look at how the landscape of college football has changed since he's come in. Between the years of 2005-2008 let's say who was really running college football. Alabama was trash, Clemson was a 7-5 program, VT was trash, UNC was trash, Duke was horrible, Auburn was trash and Tennessee was 7-5. That leaves the schools out west like USC, Cal, maybe Texas around that time. The only real schools running the south then was FSU, maybe Miami, and UGA. What I'm saying is that evened the playing field as far as recruiting goes somewhat. Now you have all those schools coming into the southeast especially Atlanta to recruit the cream of the crop. So when you're a 16-18 year old kid making that decision, you aren't necessarily thinking 40 years down the road which gets into his comments about having what the other schools have.
3. Everything that has happened to help GT in recruiting for the past 6 years Johnson did on his own. Went personally to the donor that built the indoor and asked him for the money. He wrote a check, after that the administration told Johnson he could no longer go directly to donors for donations, it had to go through proper channels. Johnson disobeyed and went to another donor to have the locker room redone, after they had the blueprints done the donor promised to double whatever money was raised. Johnson put up 1 million of his own money for the project. Donor died 3 days later. Have you seen clemson's new football facility? Their Nike uniforms? Their stadium sold out playing against South Carolina State? Everything about the teams GT recruits against is better. And kids see that.
4. Also there is no help from the school in terms of getting recruits. The NCAA has the cost of attendance checks that they give to the student athletes and it factors in things that the kids have to do in order to go to school there (travel, clothing, electronics etc.) GT's almost 2x as low as everybody else that we also recruit against. We both played with guys that came from nothing that were ballers. Dogs. And if I'm a college coach at Tennessee and I come in and say you'll get a check for 3500 every semester that is your money, and then I coach at GT and say you'll get a check for 1500 every semester, but in 40 years you'll be a millionaire. Some kids get it, but majority take that upfront money.
5. I think it would be interesting to see what Pj could do with full support. If he has an even playing field and still loses then he's gotta go. But can't expect him to win in chess if he's playing with checkers.
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I wish GT would bring back the management major they used to have in the 1980s-1990s. It would help the football and basketball programs in recruiting.
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Power running is JTs challenge that is Dobbs strength...given time JT can toss that tater...
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Please put this where everyone can see it and it won't get lost. Thanks.
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You know what kids also see?
The TO offense and think its outdated/HS. I am not saying all of them but a lot.
I know what some of you are thinking but he said it too. They are 16-18 year old kids, they don't see the "magic" (if you will) of the TO. They want to be the center of attention and start right away and be flashy.
Don't agree? Why do we have press conferences for a kid to pick where he is going to college and big to do's? You didn't see that 10-15 years ago.
Times change. CPJ isn't changing and I get that but don't expect big time recruits to play in this O.
Being around HS athletes, they talk about colleges and the O/D they run. It is what it is.
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
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I am, too.
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I've been gone a long time. What's the difference between the management major now and the management major then?
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Management is no longer offered as a major. It has been replaced by Business Administration.
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And you may completely right and more than likely CPJ is going to be with us at least next year If not several more years so we need to bring in a better D.C. And if we could maybe demote Roof but still keep him that would be ok. I know we put up points even though there are some games that we can't move the ball example Clemson but maybe we should start with a new D.C. And see if that fixed our problems and go from there
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I can't see CPJ being at GT if the Jackets finish 2016 with 5-6 wins and GT wins 5-6 wins in 2017. I would think Paul would be shown the door in December 2017 in that scenario.